Violent beating of Black man by police causes outrage in France
The video comes in the middle of a debate on a security bill that would curtail sharing videos of policemen.
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Violent beating of Black man by police causes outrage in France - Police entered his studio without warrant and used gas grenade
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And I'm 100% confident saying that if he tried they certainly wouldn't have riddled him with so many bullets you could have used him to drain pasta.
They beat the shit out of him for a long time. I also love the universal "We were being attacked" cop excuse when its a six on one as if homie is John Wick.
All cops suck.
Also that 'He was trying to steal our weapons' excuse with so many motherfuckers on the scene who had to have sold that lie to their superiors...the police corruption has to run deep and guaranteed if you lifted a rock you're going to find abuse and murder in the Parisian police department.
All cops suck.
Also that 'He was trying to steal our weapons' excuse with so many motherfuckers on the scene who had to have sold that lie to their superiors...the police corruption has to run deep and guaranteed if you lifted a rock you're going to find abuse and murder in the Parisian police department.
To be more precise, you cannot film them with malicious intent. What malicious means is up to the cop's interpretation of course.
how many France cops are coming out and condemning this horrific act of violence? not one I bet, which is why people say ACAB. silence is complicity.
Wonder if we will keep hearing excuses about how "European cops are good" whenever ACAB comes up. Cause we shouldn't.
It's not applicable yet. It must pass before one other court, and even then, it's so sloppily written I don't know how they will make it work. Really amateur hour.
Not saying the law is good, but you still could, the law ( if it does pass the Constitutional Council ) is about the diffusion of the face or any elements allowing you to identify them. I also think the intent of said diffusion matter ( which will make it even harder to apply ).
The scene of the beating was showed on the news today, faces are blured. From what I can gather that's pretty much the extend of what the result of the law would be.
Wonder what's the next step since the government is taking the only defense black people have against the ACAB? The next step is direct confrontation...random shooting/execution of Cops/politicians? You can't just force minorities into a corner and keep beating them over and over and not expect retaliation. I expect an explosion from minorities in violence if both the Government and Cops are going against it's minority citizens.
What if that was the plan? More violence from minorities so the general opinion is that stricter laws were indeed necessary. And meanwhile, no one speaks about the government constant fuckups and cowardice.
Fucking pigs. Fuck every last cop. All of them.
Man, you gotta be kidding me.
Well, in America we often tie the police's actions to the slave catcher origins.
With global issues, it appears that it's simply a problem of too much power, too little qualification, and a culture built around those things.
Not only can you still film them as the law is not passed (and won't probably, certainly not in its current form), but you would still be able to film them as much as you wanted if it was.
You could even film them with malicious intent, only the diffusion would be a problem, like if you were doxxing them while calling for harm to happen to them.
The proposed law is still stupid and much too broad (on top of redundant) but adding lies on top of bullshit like you do helps no one.
You would totally be able to film them as much as you want, even if the law was to pass in its current form (and it won't).
It's a diffusion problem, and no it would of course not be up to the cop to decide anything, only a judge would.
So good of France to bend over backwards to protects thugs like these. Macron and his cronies really are awful.
ACAB
It's always ridiculous seeing excuses like "He tried to grab our weapon" or "he attacked first" like if they did that they wouldn't be turned into swiss cheese
It's always ridiculous seeing excuses like "He tried to grab our weapon" or "he attacked first" like if they did that they wouldn't be turned into swiss cheese
If you have no other choice if peaceful protesting is largely being ignored and approached with violence from the ACAB...
You can either lay there and get your ass beat every day or go out and fight for your rights the hard way.
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Paris police filmed beating music producer in studio
Footage shows victim, who was later released without charge, being punched, kicked and hit with truncheon
www.theguardian.com
In my experience the type of person that wants to be a police officer is exactly the type of person you'd never want to have that kind of authority. Even if they cleaned house and started over it'd be a huge battle to not end up with the same exact problems they have now.
Yeah, I'd say that goes for pretty much any type of authority. It's just that the problem becomes all the more apparent when dealing with people who can legally kill others.
And he would probably be in jail if there's hadn't been such a video...
Just when there's a new law trying to prevent people from filming police forces...
Just when there's a new law trying to prevent people from filming police forces...
Cops in France can definitely be racist fuckheads like this lot, but they're not trigger-happy racist fuckheads like the ones in the US. 19 people were killed by the police in France last year, compared to 999 shot and killed by police in the US. Adjusting for population, the US had 10x more police-caused deaths.
Fuck that proposed law. Thankfully, it's not the law quite yet. And the way it's written, I don't see how you can get convicted outside of open-and-shut cases. But I can definitely see how it can cause cops to be even more assholes towards people filming them.
It's up to the judge, not the cop.
Say it with me, folks: ACAB!
Might not be systematic eradication like in the US, but it's still bacon
Might not be systematic eradication like in the US, but it's still bacon
Up to the judge, as pointed out by others.
But, yeah, that's a dangerous and shameful law...
I think the idea behind it was "fine", as i think it is was to prevent doxxing of police officers as at least one of them got killed in his home with his wife a few years ago. But the text is just so ridiculously vague that it will, for sure, lead to plenty of abuse. It's still not completely passed tho, the Senate and the Constitutional Council still have to validate it. So it might not go further, especially in light of this aggression. (but considering the senate and the council are mostly made of old guys from the right, i don't particularily have my hopes up).
Your are both right.
If a cop feel you have ill intent while filming the police, they could decide to detain you till a judge can decide if you really had ill intent. If the judge decide that you didn't have such intent, their bad, you're free to go but the protest is done and you lost at best a couple of hours of your life and you were not here to film it or to protest.
They already acted like that during the Yellow-vests protests or during other protests (using a law forbidding assembling with the intent to act violently) and the police was ordered to act like that by prosecutors: some people spend the whole day inside a police station, unable to use their right to protest and were let go at the end of the day (at best) because they didn't have ill intent (and as far as I understand it, they couldn't attack the state for a legal reason I don't remember -- I'm not a lawyer, nor a judge).
They also already did it to journalists under other pretenses.
Philippe Bas, a Questor of the Senate, already said they will rewrite part of the bill. But I don't think it'll be for the better. And at the end of the day, it's the National Assembly's version of bill who is voted. Only the Constitutional Council has power to prevent it.
Yeah i know, there's chance it will get better, but it most likely won't as both these institutions are quite clearly on the "conservative" side.
Darmanin used that as an example too but to the best of my recollection, in that case there was no prior publication of the cop's identity anywhere on the web.
Anyway you know police violence in France is a major major issue when the new person who was appointed as defender of rights, who was saying that she had a problem with the use of the term police violence when she took the job, has this week come out against the proposed law, published a scathing new report about a prior infamous case of police brutality and immediately seized upon the very case this topic is about. The police are just completely out of control and have been encouraged by the government for a good five years now.
