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They get to score points for open source technology but I don't think the quality will be better for it.
why?
currently it is still just the same old trading IQ for frame rate, the tech needs more improvement
Epic doesn't have to. UE is open source. I'm sure someone can splice the shader code in there on their own, without Epic.
Damn you are right. Or look at the tiles on the floor. Looks terrible.
it's not open source, but I know what you mean. I think AMD will still put out a plug-on and save everyone the hassle
This honestly just looks like a driver-level implementation of TAA and I would love to be proven wrong on this.
This is amazing news. I just hope its as good as it sounds, it will help give much needed longevity to older cards
Most performance-intensive console games already use some sort of image upscaling/reconstruction; this is just an alternative. And not a very good one at first glance.
Finally, but i'll wait for less compressed source than a Youtube video before I pass judgement. The performance numbers look good, though. RIP native resolutions.
I just combed through the 4K YT video, and I have to say, for its flaws and issues at launch, DLSS 1.0 resolved and upscaled images to a sharper degree than this. So any conversation about "well, DLSS 1.0 was rough" misses the point. AMD is opting for a very different kind of upscaling system, and if their methodology was suited for the jaggies and detail-loss that DLSS can so neatly resolve, I believe we would've seen it today.
An open standard that can be exposed by a wide variety of hardware, without dedicated cores, was always gonna come at a cost. I'm happy to see it out there—especially as a wholly open part of OpenGPU that anyone can tinker with and improve in the open source community.
An open standard that can be exposed by a wide variety of hardware, without dedicated cores, was always gonna come at a cost. I'm happy to see it out there—especially as a wholly open part of OpenGPU that anyone can tinker with and improve in the open source community.
It doesn't use any temporal data.
So just a standard singe frame upscale with some edge detection, i assume.
The 4K60 Youtube video is plenty clear enough to get a good idea of what the image quality is going to be like.
no no no you are supposed to prove me wrong and tell me it's BETTER than TAA.
It's concerning that THIS is "quality" mode. The side by side shows a huge difference.
Doesnt really look that great, more options are better than less options but I cant really ever myself using this over just turning down settings based on what they showed. Being vendor agnostic and not needing any raytracing hardware is good but the end result from the press shots doesnt seem beyond what any random game with proper scaling can achieve just with already existing tools
would love to be proven wrong and for this to be a hit though
would love to be proven wrong and for this to be a hit though
Seems like a great option to have, its also supported on current and older GPU's.
Going by the 4k youtube comparison, this doesn't look like it will match the quality seen on DLSS, but I do feel both can coexist, and are needed. Not every game supports DLSS, so the more options we have the better.
Going by the 4k youtube comparison, this doesn't look like it will match the quality seen on DLSS, but I do feel both can coexist, and are needed. Not every game supports DLSS, so the more options we have the better.
Keep in mind that photo everyone keeps quoting was on the 1060, so even the "native" side wasn't running maxed out
This being spatial automatically puts the quality below TSR and DLSS. They positioned this as a solution that works everywhere and used slow moving comparisons because they know they don't have a perf or IQ adv.
it's not open source, but I know what you mean. I think AMD will still put out a plug-on and save everyone the hassle
If TSR wasn't locked behind UE, that would probably be the best overall solution.
it's not open source, but I know what you mean. I think AMD will still put out a plug-on and save everyone the hassle
Yeah that looks terrible. Honestly it just looks like 1440p vs 1080p.
Could this be a fly cam with motion blur at the edges? I dont know, trying to give them some benefit of the doubt. This is not good enough.
I agree with this your past point there. To be honest, Ultra Quality mode in these screens and from what I could glean out of the presentation looked quite good. Even getting a 56% performance boost is a great win, especially with Ray Tracing. I'm not all that impressed with Quality Mode, it looks a bit too blurry, but perhaps it will look fine on a 4k screen from a reasonable distance or in other games (I don't really notice the blurryness on my 65" from my couch without zooming in).
Hopefully they can improve the performance or image quality all around in future updates. It would also be cool to see iterations use Machine learning if it could improve the quality further. Microsoft was hinting that they were planning to use Machine learning back with FSR was originally announced.
It may not be DLSS 2.0, but I still think it's exciting.
Yeah that looks terrible. Honestly it just looks like 1440p vs 1080p.
I agree that "Quality" mode doesn't look that great, at least not on that pillar. "Ultra Quality" mode seems good though, based on the other screens. It will be interesting to see comparisons to DLSS 2.0 or other image reconstruction techniques.
I should also say, that I did check out the Unreal 5 demo, and TSR definitely looked quite good there. I'd assume FSR and TSR are comparable, but I'm not aware of how they may differ.
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Yeah that looks terrible. Honestly it just looks like 1440p vs 1080p.
I mean, you zoomed in on that pretty hard. Reducing it to just "terrible" is undermining what this technology achieves. Would you even see that far out while gaming...
but the FSR one is closer to the center of the screen? Wouldn't that mean the blur should be lessened, by comparison
It would be pretty great to see an analysis from DF once this comes out. But right now it does not look too good.
Yeah that looks terrible. Honestly it just looks like 1440p vs 1080p.
Hopefully there will be at least a few games with DLSS that also implement FSR.
I see it pretty clearly on my 27" screen. I wouldn't call it terrible, but I would call it very noticeable.
You know that you can just drop the resolution in the menu, right? In any game.
AMD has always hyped up things versus reality, though most companies do. However AMD in the graphics department sometimes takes that to the next level. I'd wait until people have it in hand and honestly expect to be disappointed. It is the safe bet as most PC users have found over the past decade.
UE isn't exactly a niche engine. If people aren't happy with the image quality compromises, it wouldn't matter that FSR is open source.
Obviously we need to wait and see, but just saying "this thing is open source therefore it wins" is pretty reductive.
It shouldn't look it though right?
I only cropped in like that because that's the first thing I noticed, second being the leaves but the whole image is blurrier. Don't get me wrong though I want FSR to succeed greatly but right now those previews don't look good. Hopefully these are just pre-release bugs and it's improved before launch.
Yeah that looks terrible. Honestly it just looks like 1440p vs 1080p.
You are comparing two different lighting situations, details on the right pillar are going to be more muted regardless.
The takeaway from that comparison pic should be the muddy-ness of the tiles in front and the detail loss in the flowers.