I have a faint memory of this too haha! I must have seen some gifs on Indie game dev twitter this year.
What you are basically asking is for side content. Which i agree, if you want casual public to stay you do that, that was the first post i made in this thread. Its just that those things will not make them get better, it will be just a way to keep them playing the game, which is what the devs want, but this isnt what this discussion is about i thought. It is about how you make them stick and learn how to play properly on vs modes. And you cant do that without playing other players and losing. Thats the entire point. This is why this thread goes nowhere, because we cant decide on what we want.
But like you don't need to worry about messed up inputs in most fighting games because what's gonna happen if you mess up an input? The CPU is an idiot half the time and isn't going to do anything about that.
There wasn't a *ton* of pushback, but I remember the team liquid forums back in the days having those huge threads about MBS, changing stutter step mechanics, army control size, etc etc - and then the game actually, you know, came out and any semblance of opposition, such as it was, died down real quick.
Then we can agree that the key is not changing the mechanics, but filling the game with more content for people that arent that engaged?
People don't want fighters with easy inputs; they want Street Fighter with easy inputs.
See, the problem is, most people dont admit this like you just did. They really, really belive the problem is only the inputs, or the links, or the combos. This is why these discussions are always dumb, because the people complaining dont really know what they want.
SamSho is dead. Guilty Gear is late next year. You might as well either wait for Granblue early 2020, or just play Street Fighter V.
Really? I mean I know its a SNK game but wow thats fast for it to die out so soon. Yeah I still Have sf5 and expected it to still be kicking. I might just have to wait til next year then.
I do agree that is a valid feeling to feel overwhelmed, but at the same time, i dont see most of those people complaining supporting the more simple fighting games that do exist and have those simplified inputs they want. Why not promote the series that do the things you like instead of come and only complain about how the others are' t cathering to you.
i don't think that's the game i was thinking of, but also holy shit i forgot this came out
Slice Dice and Rice, maybe?
I feel like the difference in that is that MTG has turns and is not reaction based.
I am surprised to see you here, Maximillion, but I think this quote holds true. If Dragon Ball FighterZ wasn't based off of Dragon Ball, it wouldn't have a quarter of the playerbase it has right now. I think one big way is to get a franchise that people would like and stick onto for a long time. 2D Final Fantasy fighter could work if they add the single player RPG mechanics from Dissida.
TRUTH.
Yo slice dice and rice is legit.
I brought this up in the inputs thread Jaded Alyx did, I feel like if someone can't do QCF on pad that they really must just be doing something wrong, like I have a hard time wrapping my head around that, but at the same time, switching to stick really did help with my consistency. If people who struggle with inputs read this and know someone with an arcade stick, or have some way of trying one, you really should try one. I've noticed a tendency in convos about them, mainly on reddit, where people tend to say now to not worry/bother with them at all because any controller is fine, and while the latter part of that is true I think it's misguided advice. You certainly don't need one, and maybe others' experiences would be different and it would actually be worse for them, that's fair too. But they for sure should at least be tried.
This makes a lot of sense to me. People say that fighting games are hard to break into, but I feel like that's only the case if you measure your success by how close you are to playing on the level of those pros, or by how much you win (or if you play a low pop game with only killers left lol). That doesn't even need to be the endgoal. You can play fighting games really casually, while still being a step above button mashing, and have a lot of fun.
It seems a bit slow for my tastes honestly. I also don't really like the look of most of the characters. If there's another beta I'll try it out.
No, it's mostly the inputs. Stop over-thinking and over-complicating it.
All evidence shows that it's not. If that were the case then Street Fighter Alpha would not have been popular nor would Marvel vs Capcom.
Knowing inputs doesn't even matter if you don't understand neutral. Which 98% of the fighting game buying public does not.
I've been saying this throughout this thread but people seem to conveniently ignore this fact.
