That wasn't what I asked. I asked "how does failing to remove him from office hold him accountable"
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Video: Nancy Pelosi Knew Iraq War was Based on Bad Intel at the Time, Explains Why She Opposed Impeachment For Bush
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That wasn't what I asked. I asked "how does failing to remove him from office hold him accountable"
Yup. In a just world this admission would allow to Iraq sue for damages/reparations but that'll never happen.
You're right. Why even try to do the right thing? Fuck everything.
iraq war was about bloodlust and revenge and basically everyone bought in
"everyones so united now its amazing" stories were ran nightly
She didn't have control over the senate she can only do her part, which she failed to do when she knew they lied about going to war.
By setting a precedent in order to establish any kind of sensible reaction to gross misconduct, otherwise it goes unchallenged
Let's be very clear. The ONLY reason we are even getting impeachment at this point is a perfect storm of certain individuals acting on principle in the face of protocol and Trumps sheer unbridled stupidity catching up with him. The DAY AFTER the Mueller hearing, and upon seeing that he could basically get away with this shit due to people like Pelosi, Trumps dumbass blew off his own foot by making that phone call and slipping "Biden" instead of "Burisma" because he believed he was untouchable, and why shouldnt he? Pelosi had to get the golden snitch to land in her lap and STILL required push from people in her own party to do shit. And then we still had people claiming 400th Dimensional genius for waiting for such a moment on her part because of "yaas queen" bullshit.
Our entire legal system is built on this, shit doesnt just pop out of the ground.
You hold these people accountable and FORCE them to dispute it. Even if you don't "win", you force them to play the game and show which colors theyre flying.
It's not rocket science.
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We did but then people just get mad at us for being sexist/dividing the party/ridiculous purity tests.
Pretty fair reasoning, especially considering Bush was lame duck by the time the House was taken.
Like the guy who's probably gonna be the democratic primary nom this year lol
Impeachment is not a criminal proceeding. It's a political process.
"Lawmakers are not required to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt — the evidentiary standard in a criminal case. "
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We gotta b real here mates, no self respecting lib gives a shit about brown people across the globe, no matter how many die due to US influence(regardless of the administration)
This thread is two pages and will soon be at the bottom of the heap along with every other genocide level disaster.
Its just the kind of comfortable mindset these types have, like Ellen for example. Its how she can get away with saying "you can be friends with people you disagree" to a war criminal and still have people lining up to defend it ad nauseum
This thread is two pages and will soon be at the bottom of the heap along with every other genocide level disaster.
Its just the kind of comfortable mindset these types have, like Ellen for example. Its how she can get away with saying "you can be friends with people you disagree" to a war criminal and still have people lining up to defend it ad nauseum
stop voting for people like her and stop falling for the usual smears when it comes to progressives would be a start.
but also get mad at nancy for sure.
Then you'll prove you are a reasonable human being who actually cares about people's lives....i dont think i should need to say that
Yup and she has a primary challenger.
Also, what's the use of an opposition party that doesn't oppose?
You should get mad when the people who run your country commit or are complacent with the committing of atrocity, yes.
And if you live in CA-12, vote her out. And if you don't, then support Shahid Buttar's campaign.
It's generally a waste of time to do the right thing. That's the only message I'm walking away with here.
Ok, if I i was her I would've said something, I would've leaked the info out.
but I'm not her
Pragmatically let hundreds of thousands of foreigners die. Pragmatically set the stage for the creation of ISIS.
I dunno. I think maybe there's some chronic fetishism for moral compromise. Like, you can't be a grown-up if you don't engage in complicity with a system that slaughters innocents for ephemeral wins.
So what, it's the fucking right thing to do.
Just like now. You want to argue that we shouldn't hold Trump accountable because in the end Republicans wouldn't indict him anyways?
And there's nothing in Trump's repertoire that could match the sheer brutality and wrongness of Iraq war.
if in the face of a million dead brown people, you want to further embrace pragmatism, maybe it's time to check your privilege.
That's a start.
The internet likes to joke about the 'wakeup sheeple' meme, but many people really are fucking asleep.
it wasn't even cool, she was being genuine but she's a fucking lizard so she can't even clap right
I mean, I feel like that's the quiet part that people are afraid of saying loud, isn't it?
In America, people actively want their politicians to value American lives more than the lives of foreigners. They want their politicians to treat foreign lives as expendable, especially by comparison to American lives. That's thought of as "pragmatism" and not "callousness so severe it should be utterly disqualifying because it shows you are a fundamentally broken human."
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I'm a simple guy. Someone posts a clip from Network, I watch it.
Silly Sandstar, don't you know only symbolic actions that result in nothing changing are all that actually matter?
That's a graphic of who controlled congress while bush was president. You wanted her to start impeachment proceedings during Bush's last 2 years, when removing him wouldn't've mattered, and would've led to Dick Cheney being president if the senate had voted to convict, wouldn't've stopped the Iraq war, and would've normalized impeachment as a tool the opposition party uses against the president, and wouldn't've have led to Bush being removed from office?
At least someone's on my side :) I was a little worried when I saw the popup for your reply.
She posed with the squad guys, and did the absolute bare fucking minimum in opposing a facist administration, all while shaming those same people in the squad and even trying to censure one of them for speaking out against legalized bribery and aparthied
ahhhh pragmatism, giving shitty people a shield for their shittiness since who the fuck even knows when
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