Video: Nancy Pelosi Knew Iraq War was Based on Bad Intel at the Time, Explains Why She Opposed Impeachment For Bush

[BADMAN]

In a recent town hall, Nancy Pelosi was asked why she opposed impeaching Bush for the Iraq war as well as impeachment for Trump over the Muller report. She says that she knew that the intel was bogus from the beginning but that misleading the public into the Iraq war was not grounds for impeachment.

Watch the video, but if you can't, here's her reasoning from what I can gather.

1. They won the election
2. People believed the Republicans
3. Bill Clinton had just been impeached and she didn't want impeachment to become "a way of life for our country"

She finishes saying Muller Report did not convince the public and she wanted to wait for court cases.

This is the first time I've heard that Pelosi knew about the bad intelligence in the lead up to the war. Despite voting "No" on the war, she didn't publicly push the idea that the intel was bad. On top of that, her reasoning not to impeach Bush is really... Something...

Destroy my country for profit if old.

 

[Replicant]

I think it's truly time for her to step away. A terrible answer and she seems more more to struggle to get answers and sentences out.

 

[Hey Please]

And how many people lost their lives and were displaced because of its immediate and remote effects over this political nuisance?

 

[Commedieu]

I think it's truly time for her to step away. A terrible answer and she seems more more to struggle to get answers and sentences out.

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I think it's time for Americans to grow up. How is it we can all live decades with literal bogus wars in the backdrop and celebrate our troops and the war machine.

Reducing military funding kills your election. Both republican and Democrat.

We all know it was a lie since Saudis blew up the wtc.

The status quo is more important than dead relatives.

 

[Huncho_Houdini]

the iraq war is one of the worst things America has ever done; such carnage and destruction. And the culprits will never pay for it. Just shameful.

 

[Deleted member 18944]

3. Bill Clinton had just been impeached and she didn't want impeachment to become "a way of life for our country"

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Fucking what, Pelosi?

Yeah, lets make sure not to hold the president accountable because checks notes we don't want impeachment to be a way of life.

Imagine if we did use impeachment more often and held our government responsible LIKE WE SHOULD BE DOING. Then corrupt elected leaders wouldn't pull shit like this so much.

Ask the parents of fallen soldiers if not wanting impeachment to become a way of life was worth their son's life.

 

[Kay]

Fucking what, Pelosi?

Yeah, lets make sure not to hold the president accountable because checks notes we don't want impeachment to be a way of life.

Imagine if we did use impeachment more often and held our government responsible LIKE WE SHOULD BE DOING. Then corrupt elected leaders wouldn't pull shit like this so much.

Ask the parents of fallen soldiers if not wanting impeachment to become a way of life was worth their son's life.

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[Sandstar]

I agree with her reasoning, at least not wanting impeachment to become a way of life in this country. Would you have liked it if the republican congress has impeached Obama over anything they wanted? Romney would've won, if they'd impeached him in 2010, after they took control?

 

[Prolepro]

I bit my tongue for a long time leading up to impeachment but she's fucking scum and the people who defended her idleness and utter incompetency in the wake of our most recent shitshow of republican fuckery should feel ashamed.

 

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I'm pretty sure she almost said 'I knew it was a fraud' before changing to misrepresentation, and like cool you knew you were lying to the public and it boils down to it not being an impeachable offense because the public didn't know about it?

It's appalling what they did?! You were complicit in what they did. Clinton did something stupid so he was impeached, Bush started a fraudulent war that you knew was fraudulent but didn't want impeachment to be a common practice? Way to conflate the two. How did the Iraq war not destabilize and further jeopardize our national security?

 

[BADMAN]

Fucking what, Pelosi?

Yeah, lets make sure not to hold the president accountable because checks notes we don't want impeachment to be a way of life.

Imagine if we did use impeachment more often and held our government responsible LIKE WE SHOULD BE DOING. Then corrupt elected leaders wouldn't pull shit like this so much.

Ask the parents of fallen soldiers if not wanting impeachment to become a way of life was worth their son's life.

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I really shows how she only interprets things through a "washington bubble" political point of view.

 

[Deleted member 22490]

I agree with her reasoning, at least not wanting impeachment to become a way of life in this country. Would you have liked it if the republican congress has impeached Obama over anything they wanted? Romney would've won, if they'd impeached him in 2010, after they took control?

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Should we not hold presidents accountable?

 

[Blue Skies]

Eh
If republicans are gonna play this game in where their politicians can do no wrong, then fuck it, let's play that game too. Go queen

 

[PhaZe 5]

At this point, if you were close to rational about our history your level of patriotism would be something close to 0.

Yet people are being blacklisted for kneeling lol.

 

[Sandstar]

Should we not hold presidents accountable?

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That's a graphic of who controlled congress while bush was president. You wanted her to start impeachment proceedings during Bush's last 2 years, when removing him wouldn't've mattered, and would've led to Dick Cheney being president if the senate had voted to convict, wouldn't've stopped the Iraq war, and would've normalized impeachment as a tool the opposition party uses against the president, and wouldn't've have led to Bush being removed from office?

 

[Imperfected]

You know, the argument for Pelosi increasingly seems to be, "sure, she's a sociopath but her cold, calculating logic keeps her focused on winning".

Except I can't remember the last D win that didn't come in direct opposition to her marching orders, so...

 

[Seeya]

Not even surprised. In her mind the 'mob' was something to be contained and controlled. You can't have the people getting mad again so soon, can you?

 

[TheAbsolution]

I think it's truly time for her to step away. A terrible answer and she seems more more to struggle to get answers and sentences out.

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She's already agreed to step down in 2022 I think? was a condition of getting the votes to make her Speaker again IIRC.

 

[Inuhanyou]

What are you guys talking about? The white queen Progressive Pelosi has spoken and deemed massive loss of life numbering in the millions of brown lives and untold displacement for what is quite clearly false pretenses 'not worth impeachment'. Clearly she is just and correct and you just need to shut up.

Eh
If republicans are gonna play this game in where their politicians can do no wrong, then fuck it, let's play that game too. Go queen

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The worst part is some people actually belive this is a fucking team sport and not a goddamned life or death situation where millions of people's lives hang in the balance

 

[Dennis8K]

This perfectly illustrates how the American political establishment views foreign wars.

Ain't no thing. Kill kill kill.

 

[Prolepro]

Eh
If republicans are gonna play this game in where their politicians can do no wrong, then fuck it, let's play that game too. Go queen

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just to be clear

she's bragging about not doing anything about a fucking pointless war that's reaped literal hundreds of thousands of innocent lives and displaced and utterly destroyed millions more

im aware this is sarcasm (i hope)

 

[Acorn]

At this point, if you were close to rational about our history your level of patriotism would be something close to 0.

Yet people are being blacklisted for kneeling lol.

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Can't challenge the collective wilful amnesia man. That just makes people think, that's dangerous for the powerful.

 

[Autodidact]

That's a graphic of who controlled congress while bush was president. You wanted her to start impeachment proceedings during Bush's last 2 years, when removing him wouldn't've mattered, and would've led to Dick Cheney being president if the senate had voted to convict, wouldn't've stopped the Iraq war, and would've normalized impeachment as a tool the opposition party uses against the president, and wouldn't've have led to Bush being removed from office?

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Not to mention it probably wouldn't have gotten to 67 votes in the Senate and wouldn't have removed him.

The ONLY two punishments for a successful impeachment are removal from office and being barred from holding future office. And since Bush was a second-term lame duck president, LOL.

People wanted him tried for war crimes, but Congress literally was not the venue.

 

[Deleted member 18324]

I agree with her reasoning, at least not wanting impeachment to become a way of life in this country. Would you have liked it if the republican congress has impeached Obama over anything they wanted? Romney would've won, if they'd impeached him in 2010, after they took control?

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Ah yes, better a million dead Iraqis than accountability for American politicians.

 

[WrenchNinja]

american way of life vs american and iraqi lives

good to know her priorities

 

[Greigor the FellHand]

shes a classic republican.

fuck everyone that did this

 

[Sandstar]

Ah yes, better a million dead Iraqis than accountability for American politicians.

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How many iraq lives would've been saved by impeaching Bush?

 

[Min]

That's a graphic of who controlled congress while bush was president. You wanted her to start impeachment proceedings during Bush's last 2 years, when removing him wouldn't've mattered, and would've led to Dick Cheney being president if the senate had voted to convict, wouldn't've stopped the Iraq war, and would've normalized impeachment as a tool the opposition party uses against the president, and wouldn't've have led to Bush being removed from office?

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Not to mention it probably wouldn't have gotten to 67 votes in the Senate and wouldn't have removed him.

The ONLY two punishments for a successful impeachment are removal from office and being barred from holding future office. And since Bush was a second-term lame duck president, LOL.

People wanted him tried for war crimes, but Congress literally was not the venue.

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Oh I don't know, maybe alerting the public or informing congress or some other watch dog committee that the war being started had no factual stance would have been nice during all the fervor.

 

[thesoapster]

She plays politics.
But for one sec can we agree: what a fuckin' thumbnail?

 

[Madison]

I agree with her reasoning, at least not wanting impeachment to become a way of life in this country. Would you have liked it if the republican congress has impeached Obama over anything they wanted? Romney would've won, if they'd impeached him in 2010, after they took control?

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a million people died

 

[sapien85]

That's a graphic of who controlled congress while bush was president. You wanted her to start impeachment proceedings during Bush's last 2 years, when removing him wouldn't've mattered, and would've led to Dick Cheney being president if the senate had voted to convict, wouldn't've stopped the Iraq war, and would've normalized impeachment as a tool the opposition party uses against the president, and wouldn't've have led to Bush being removed from office?

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If there's a good reason for impeachment like a false war then yes. Assuming Obama would have lost in 2012 because if impeachment is a stretch. Clinton became more popular after impeachment and Trump might get re elected after impeachment.

 

[Prolepro]

How many iraq lives would've been saved by impeaching Bush?

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the fuck outta here with this weak ass shit

 

[Deleted member 18944]

I really shows how she only interprets things through a "washington bubble" political point of view.

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Yeah, it's insane to me. Send people to die in a war that is falsely deemed necessary. She basically saying "fuck soldiers, let em die so that we don't enter an age of accountability."

Actually insanity.

 

[Sandstar]

the fuck outta here with this weak ass shit

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Maybe don't imply that I'm okay with a million iraqis dying.

 

[Deleted member 2533]

Well, what's she gonna say now? That GWB should have been impeached? She's gonna say that the barrier for impeachment should be so high professionally and politically, that perjury (Clinton), falsifying evidence as a pretense for going to war (Bush), and past election interference (Trump), are not a high enough bar. But that endangerment of the domestic democratic process (Trump) in an upcoming election is such a clear and present danger that she has no choice but to begrudgingly go forward with the grave matter of impeachment. This is a framing tactic. If she says "we should have impeached Bush," the GoP will say, "well, there was no evidence for that, and there's no evidence against Trump, either, Pelosi is just playing politics."

 

[rsfour]

Fucking christ

 

[Prolepro]

Maybe don't imply that I'm okay with a million iraqis dying.

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you are if you "agree with her reasoning"

 

[Deleted member 22490]

That's a graphic of who controlled congress while bush was president. You wanted her to start impeachment proceedings during Bush's last 2 years, when removing him wouldn't've mattered, and would've led to Dick Cheney being president if the senate had voted to convict, wouldn't've stopped the Iraq war, and would've normalized impeachment as a tool the opposition party uses against the president, and wouldn't've have led to Bush being removed from office?

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So no, we shouldn't hold presidents accountable.

 

[skycamefalling]

Thousands and thousands of people dead or Americans unhappy because of impeachment?

Rather kill a bunch of brown people.

 

[Convasse]

America truly has so much blood on it's hands at this point. Moves are made solely for political expediency rather than for the sake of truth and justice.

 

[Madison]

Well, what's she gonna say now? That GWB should have been impeached?

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yes

"we should have impeached GWD because the iraq war caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands and its the darkest mark related to the US in the 21st century (so far)".

 

[Sandstar]

So no, we shouldn't hold presidents accountable.

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How is failing to remove him from office holding him accountable?

 

[Inuhanyou]

a million people died

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And millions more displaced, and hundreds of thousands more died in fear of the vacuum that was created by ISIS, a direct result of Iraq

 

[Seeya]

That's a graphic of who controlled congress while bush was president. You wanted her to start impeachment proceedings during Bush's last 2 years, when removing him wouldn't've mattered, and would've led to Dick Cheney being president if the senate had voted to convict, wouldn't've stopped the Iraq war, and would've normalized impeachment as a tool the opposition party uses against the president, and wouldn't've have led to Bush being removed from office?

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There's a lot of daylight between beginning impeachment proceedings and calling out fraudulent intel.

She said she kept quiet about the pretence being garbage because the Republicans won the election and 'people believed them' (even though there was skepticism at the time).

She said that she didn't go after Bush because she didn't want impeachment to become the norm.

Something something gamefication.

At this point it's a mystery how anyone can legitimately believe that Pelosi values (her class) stability over all else.

 

[Inuhanyou]

How is failing to remove him from office holding him accountable?

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How is in any sense sending a message about killing over a million people by lying not worth it? See how reprehensible your logic is by trying to turn this into some kind of political nonsense?

Also....

 

[Stinkles]

Everyone knew about the bad intelligence. I'm not being glib but op, everyone knew.

everyone. We had the secretary of defense holding prop uranium.

 

[Blue Skies]

Thousands and thousands of people dead or Americans unhappy because of impeachment?

Rather kill a bunch of brown people.

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You're talking like the impeachment would've been successful and we would've not gone to war.
What would've happened is: impeachment unsuccessful, and we still go to war.

 

[Sandstar]

There's a lot of daylight between beginning impeachment proceedings and calling out fraudulent intel.

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I wasn't arguing about that. Please read my first post, which was strictly about impeachment.

 

[Deleted member 22490]

How is failing to remove him from office holding him accountable?

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So because it likely wouldn't have been done meant that it shouldn't even be tried. Also the house can impeach without a conviction.

 

[Rand a. Thor]

The Clinton quote is amazing really. I mean if we are being totally honest, I would take 20 years of switching Presidents every term with imprachments raining down over our heads because that means the government is giving no shits and beating the legality into what should be the highest institution of morality in the country. But no, it looks bad to impeach each and every president so we might as well notmalize criminal activity and war criminals, what could go wrong!