This toxic attitude of yours sure doesn't help anything.
This toxic attitude of yours sure doesn't help anything.
Another FG thread where the motion control diehards assume that any dissent could only be coming from outsiders speaking out of ignorance.another FG thread and its another thread about people who clearly dont even play the genre making fun of people liking motion controls, saying how its the hardest part of learning the genre ( when its the easiest) and acting like motion controls are the devil.
like clockwork every time
"Just think of the mind games if everyone knew everyone else was limited like me!"I expect "Capcom Cup & EVO should require/SFVI would be better if everyone used/I'd be Diamond rank if everyone online used" simple input threads regularly for the next five years.
But they don't want DnF, they want to be part of the Street Fighter tribe and the prestige going with it !Just a reminder that dnf duel comes out on Tuesday and does pretty much every thing in this video.
What was exactly toxic ?
Just ignore them and let them wallow in their scrubby attitude about stuff
I'm above average player, wtf are you on about?Just ignore them and let them wallow in their scrubby attitude about stuff
I see no mention of your skill level in my post
"Scrubby attitude about stuff"
'Scrub' has nothing to do with skill level.
Yeah you are showing it now, attitude has nothing to do with your skill as a player
This is something I don't think gets talked about enough tbhRemoving risk in special move execution is never going to be okay for me. Even pros fail to input QCFs sometimes.
I mean it's ok, but other factors have to be introduced that can leave room for error, it works for smash because of all the other variables that are not in other 2d fightersRemoving risk in special move execution is never going to be okay for me. Even pros fail to input QCFs sometimes.
Yes, it does. In the context of video games, it just a synonym for a bad player.
Good to know I can insult people on this forum when discussing game design if I make myself sound smart enough.Yeah you are showing it now, attitude has nothing to do with your skill as a player
Scrub is almost always used when discussing an attitude. Go look at the Scrubquotes twitter account. Its all people raging, making excuses, etc. It doesn't refer to skill levelYes, it does. In the context of video games, it just a synonym for a bad player.
Good to know I can insult people on this forum when discussing game design if I make myself sound smart enough.
However, for someone like Chun, that would mean doing both a charge move (sbk) and QCB (Serenity Stream) - at which point you might as well just use Classic?It should be noted that you can still access the missing special moves by doing the traditional inputs while in Modern Controls. For example, if you want to take a drink as Jamie, you can still do the down-down motion.
Nah.Yes, it does. In the context of video games, it just a synonym for a bad player.
Someone who thinks they're much better than they are and makes excuses whenever they lose. The classic scrub believes that the only reason they aren't winning is because the opponent isn't following some self-defined set of "honorable" rules (like not spamming whatever move is hitting them today), not through any lack of skill on their own part. Some people use the term to refer to any beginner, but really the core of the term is an insult towards people who refuse to learn.
You can just write my name. This post is barely 1 page, it's pretty obvious who you are referring to.
For EVO winners motions inputs practically don't exist, and new players barely manage to move their characters in a match let alone do a complicated motion input. Did you see the SFV streamer tournament on twitch?
still a scrub tho
True, but that's probably why we have a few down-down motions (like for Chun's DP kicks). Plus the other moves can serve as a nice gateway drug to Classic Controls for those who want to make that transition.However, for someone like Chun, that would mean doing both a charge move (sbk) and QCB (Serenity Stream) - at which point you might as well just use Classic?
"Scrub" is a mindset, not a skill indicator, although people do like to interchange them.Yes, it does. In the context of video games, it just a synonym for a bad player.
Those players also only had what, a week to practice? With most of those players never having touched the genre at all??? Of course they're going to think things are complicated.For EVO winners motions inputs practically don't exist, and new players barely manage to move their characters in a match let alone do a complicated motion input. Did you see the SFV streamer tournament on twitch?
Agreed. And to be fair, Chun is considered 'Hard' after all.True, but that's probably why we have a few down-down motions (like for Chun's DP kicks). Plus the other moves can serve as a nice gateway drug to Classic Controls for those who want to make that transition.
Another FG thread where the motion control diehards assume that any dissent could only be coming from outsiders speaking out of ignorance.
However, for someone like Chun, that would mean doing both a charge move (sbk) and QCB (Serenity Stream) - at which point you might as well just use Classic?
Nah.
Scrub is all about attitude.
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The entire video is about how inaccessible fighting games are with motion inputs. Did you even bother to watch the video or just write a drive by comment?Congrats on turning a thread about a cool feature that the person in the video is excited about into a thread about motion controls.
Good for them? That's like saying accessibility doesn't matter because it isn't for me.At AT&T players managed to move and do special inputs just fine. Problem was that almost none of them had any proper strategy figured out so they were just trying to do any special input whenever.
Thx.
This is the same as saying "it gets better after 100 hours".Those players also only had what, a week to practice? With most of those players never having touched the genre at all??? Of course they're going to think things are complicated.
I'm going through so many emotions :D.
Sajam is a random streamer?
well since it's clear you just don't give a shit and aren't willing to listen to anyone, then i simply do not have time for your bullshit in this threadI'm not gonna watch a 7 minute video of a random streamer
The entire video is about how inaccessible fighting games are with motion inputs. Did you even bother to watch the video or just write a drive by comment?
Good for them? That's like saying accessibility doesn't matter because it isn't for me.
Thx.
This is the same as saying "it gets better after 100 hours".
What? You were the one bringing those people up as an example of motion inputs being hard.Good for them? That's like saying accessibility doesn't matter because it isn't for me.
LTG is honestly the perfect example that a scrub can be at any skill level.low tier god is pretty good at street fighter and most people
would still say he has a shitty, scrub like attitude. and they would be right
If you can do everything equally as well but easier with the modern control scheme (and I don't think it's actually possible for that to be the case, but hypothetically), then people who are used to classic controls would just use modern controls to make that gap even larger.For someone who is able to get over the hump, absolutely. But for accessibility purposes, they should allow for people who would not be able to. Players are used to classic controls, I feel anyway, are already at a pretty big advantage. I don't see how it could cause balancing issues.
CorrectIf you can do everything equally as well but easier with the modern control scheme (and I don't think it's actually possible for that to be the case, but hypothetically), then people who are used to classic controls would just use modern controls to make that gap even larger.
I don't think so.I think it's important for people to know that if they're thinking about playing online, the simple controls are a learning tool meant to be used as a stepping stone to graduating to regular inputs. They are not meant to be something that puts you on an even playing field with someone using the regular control method.
I feel like there's going to be a lot of salt when this releases once new players realize that.
They're bannedModern Control Type being a great accessibility option and motion inputs not being as difficult as people make them out to be are both true.
I think a neat semi solution to this is to let people make player match rooms were you can make it simplified controls only
Yeah, was happy seeing her being exited about the new modern controllers. Hope it attracts a new crowd.Anyway this is amazing for the disabled or those who genuinely struggle severely with motions. Let em enjoy themselves and if they can/choose they can switch it off and unlock their full potential with time.
I don't think people using modern controls are playing in ranked or anything like that. I'm just thinking of a way to keep it fun & interesting for them. At the end of the day, it's all about having fun. And if being able to customize the controls makes it more fun for them, why not?If you can do everything equally as well but easier with the modern control scheme (and I don't think it's actually possible for that to be the case, but hypothetically), then people who are used to classic controls would just use modern controls to make that gap even larger.
After looking into the specials mapped to Chun-Li for Modern Controls, I found an issue I thought I should ask to be rectified.