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Video Comparison: Next gen PlayStation vs PS4 Pro (Spider-Man loads)
- Thread starter jbug617
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They never expanded themselves thinking user might have better hdd / ssd. They wont limit themselves with ssd. People replace hard drivers are isnt even big enough to be %1 playerbase
The cynic in me thinks we'll still see loading times, but maybe not like the horrendous ones in Days Gone.
This also confirms that The Last of Us Part 2, Death Stranding and Ghost of Tsushima are coming out on PS4.
From waiting 20mins for my C64 cassettes to load only for them to crash.......to less than a second.......gaming sure has come a long way,lol.
Well let's not get too far ahead of ourselves. That's a PS4 game running on more powerful hardware. How much more powerful is still up in the air (for we the customers).
I fully expect Sony first party studios to use the new hardware to reduce load times, and provide smoother experiences but the cynic in me reminds me that the big third party publishers will just use it to pack more pixels we'll have similar load times to the current console.
Hope I'm wrong on that last one.
I fully expect Sony first party studios to use the new hardware to reduce load times, and provide smoother experiences but the cynic in me reminds me that the big third party publishers will just use it to pack more pixels we'll have similar load times to the current console.
Hope I'm wrong on that last one.
The massive reduction of pop-in, texture loading and faster data streaming going to be a game changer next gen. More excited about that than improved loading times.
What will happen will be a huge shift in how certain genres are created and presented. Look at what SSDs have done for PC gaming. Now imagine that's the BASELINE moving forward. Next gen exclusive titles (meaning exclusively for PS5 and the next Xbox, 2021+ games) developed FOR SSDs and modern CPUs are going to do things fundamentally impossible on current gen systems. It isn't a case of simply using powerful hardware to brute force performance like PCs do right now, games as a whole are about to jump up a notch. The CPU and the HDD both making big leaps at the same time can potentially make for the biggest jump in game design we've seen since the PS2 -> 360 transition.
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Thats kinda dumb considering remote play was working perfectly on Android before and they removed feature to give more exclusive bragging rights for Sony XPeria phones
Might be someting wrong with your harddrive? Like I said in my previous post:
What? The loading times on my Pro are really excellent in Days Gone. Only longer loading is when I boot the game up cold. But everything after that is surprisingly fast. Especially the fast traveling surprises me againg every time.
Also the loading after dying and sleeping is pretty short.
I imagine it like this. First you pick the stage and it immediately materializes in the background than you pick the characters and the just jump in from the sides, press fight and the HUD for choosing stuff disappears and the countdown starts, 3 2 1 fight.
Well for one thing, a lot of open world games that have driving/flying mechanics wont be handicapping the speeds of the vehicles to avoid sever pop-in issues.
So that's already a game changer.
That video still showed hitching even in the PS5 version. It would be much better if the level could actually fit into RAM or a better streaming engine that shows 0 hitches.
I want diagetic fast travel. Instead of picking a place from a menu, aloy summons a storm bird and crosses the map in like 3 seconds to where you want to go. Or better, you can fly it yourself.
Yeah,the difference now is that games can be built with SSD load times in mind now rather than just boosting load times.
Like 8 years ago Intel and Ubusoft showed that with an SSD your horse could be programmed to move faster in Assassin's Creed Brotherhood because data could be loaded into memory faster:
https://youtu.be/jHrqlV00sLY
It says under development which bodes well for retroactively working on games to take advantage of the new hardware.
I think it'll be a godsend for a number of current games. When you think of Soulsborne games where dying is a part of the process being able to load back into the game in a couple of seconds rather than 30 will be a huge boon. Same with stuff like Days Gone that currently takes me around 4.5 mins to load from scratch.
I think it'll be a godsend for a number of current games. When you think of Soulsborne games where dying is a part of the process being able to load back into the game in a couple of seconds rather than 30 will be a huge boon. Same with stuff like Days Gone that currently takes me around 4.5 mins to load from scratch.
Off topic but if Sony focus on wireless VR in some form then the tech required for that would also mean they could do a Wii U style console to portable screen setup. It's probably optimistic to think they would do this but it would be a cool option to have. A separate Remote Play unit that's basically a screen with controllers built in and a wireless receiver for lag free game play. Since there's no processing on board it could actually be fairly cheap.
Yeah won't happen, but if they can do wireless VR then the tech is there to do just that.
Days Gone main problem aren't the loading , but the huge ass struttering and freezing due to data streaming.
That game will be THE benchmark for PS5 SSD, if they bother to support the game on the next gen.
I would love for something like this. With new console details being so scarce, I'm not totally dismissing this as a possibility.
It's a distant possibility, but still. I have hope!
Game designers must be quite happy about this.
They might be able to do levels without tight holes for characters squeeze trough, slow door lifting or strange vinding tunnel..
There should be some awesome possibilities for game persistence and saving changes to areas and so on.
They might be able to do levels without tight holes for characters squeeze trough, slow door lifting or strange vinding tunnel..
There should be some awesome possibilities for game persistence and saving changes to areas and so on.
Yeah I understand but large PC games are made without these limitations, so what's the huge change that Sony's doing it now. I mean honestly sure load times will be quicker or non existent but with more speed the scope increases and the load times will just come back tbh.
Sincere question - are there many or any PC games today that require a SSD at a minimum?
For load times bound by I/O read speed, they should not come back to the same extent. Accounting for an increase in memory capacity to 16GB or 24GB would still yield a I/O to memory-capacity ratio that's 2.5-3.3x better than last gen (if we take a rough 10x increase in IO bandwidth at face value).
I've got the plat and three hordes left to massacre and Days Gone is still telling me how to reload :D
There's another thread right now that would call you crazy for saying that.
It's interesting to see how it handles current gen games but curious how it handles games made for next gen hardware.
Loading times are really not an issue in PS4/Pro versions of the game. You get them when fast traveling, or entering/exiting setpiece buildings.
But, if you wait for PS4, maybe you will get 4K60. :)