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Video Comparison: Next gen PlayStation vs PS4 Pro (Spider-Man loads)
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Seeing that heavily increased rendering speed only makes me think of 1 thing: flyable Stormbirds in Horizon. Do it Guerrilla!
This doesn't mean much to me until the console is released and it's operating like this in my hands.
For all we know this is just a PC made of up similar spec-like parts but not the actual product. Also it's running a "last-gen" title.
It's still very impressive though, I would love load times so low they don't even count.
For all we know this is just a PC made of up similar spec-like parts but not the actual product. Also it's running a "last-gen" title.
It's still very impressive though, I would love load times so low they don't even count.
I pray to the Sony gods that this is the case. The vita may be dead, but portable sony lives on!
Just thinking how good this'll be for online gaming too, specifically for loading in textures and geometry, it's already making this gen feel dated.
Amazing thing is, this isn't even something I knew I wanted or was on my radar, but now it's a killer feature.
No more Naughty Dog pallets and ladders!
The Spider-Man post mortem was very interesting. They only stream ~20MB/s and that's taking into account having to have a safety for people running lower spec hard drives. Even a low end SSD in PS5 would be a massive step up.
Also gameplay, developers will be able to let you travel through the world at much greater speeds. In a game like GTA6 we might actually see airplanes fly at the speed an airplane would fly.
with fighting games i was thinking how snappy the experience would be
go from the menu, to matchmaking/training mode, mess around in that til a match connects, instantly jump into character select, and boom
the longest waiting time would be for matchmaking, it would cut down on a lot of the clutter
Most players aren't used to fast load times and for them, this is gonna be a killer feature as you said. I hope Xbox also includes a SSD, because it's gonna be hard for them this generation if they don't.
Don't discount CPU improvements. It's a big factor.
Depends on programming. No matter how fast my PC is I get pop in on some games, because the draw distance is pre-set. It should be feasible depending on priorities though.
You can get a 1TB NVMe for $100. If you are gaming on PC and have all the other hardware needed to play the next gen games an SSD is already a no brainier. Like who is running a GTX 1070+ without an SSD? I have an older/slower 256GB SSD, but a 1TB NVMe for $100 is a cheap and very worthwhile upgrade even outside of gaming.
I wonder to what extent developers will be limited by the possibility of user replaceable storage, or whether this simply implies that you will only be able to use certified top spec ssds, or perhaps even just not have user replaceable storage at all. External drives might be out too.
that was crazy. the most next gen thing ive ever seen and that includes that MGS2 demo and KZ shadowfall reveal.
the gameplay possibilities are endless. we can finally have a superman game now. GTA planes wont have to fly super slow. we can probably go from vice city to liberty city on a plane in less than a 5 minutes of gametime flying.
just amazing.
the gameplay possibilities are endless. we can finally have a superman game now. GTA planes wont have to fly super slow. we can probably go from vice city to liberty city on a plane in less than a 5 minutes of gametime flying.
just amazing.
It's has been heavily rumored to also have an SSD but MS themselves haven't said anything about it yet and if it is real we don't know if it'll be as fast as Sony's solution. So now we play the waiting game (and that game has the longest loading time of all 🙄)
This presentation has me super hyped for the possibilities from devs next gen. I was already pumped up from the Wired article description but actually seeing it play out is fucking fantastic.
That speeding through the city part was super impressive. Being able to zoom around that fast in real time without any noticeable asset loading/pop-in. Wow.
I would bet they probably won't suddenly jump back to terribly long.
I'm sure they will be much faster than anything we get today on consoles, by a lot.
I mean is that the entire improvement? If loading times are the best Sony has to offer with the new PS?
Uh... you do know that the PS5 will be way more powerful than the PS4, right?
It isn't just a PS4 with a custom SSD slapped on.
This is what I am waiting for.
More patches + PS5 + Days Gone = Success
Yes.
I am sure a 1 minute clip encapsulates all Sony has to offer next gen.
I doubt we'll see the exact same results, but they should be shorter than current gen games on PS4.
This shouldn't be hard to picture. You're pretty much moving data from the disk to memory. Think about what you might speculate might be the total amount of memory for the PS5 and extrapolate from there.
It's huge though, it could eliminate load times, remove pop in or texture loading etc.
Plus we have ray tracing which will also be big.
Other than maybe better graphics or more consistent 60fps I don't really know what more you can expect from Xbox.
Man I cannot wait for the PS5...these news drips are cool but man, just making me more thirsty lol.
Yes. If you are okay with slower load times to snack or browse, you can stick with PS4. That is the only difference.
I don't expect MS to offer something similar, it sounds like this is proprietary Sony tech and goes beyond using simply SSD, expecting Sony make a big deal of this edge over the competition.
How is it embarrassing. Load times are one of the worst and most annoying aspect a game can have. Besides, they've also said next gen audio is coming, and there's gonna be the generational leap in graphics, which we'll see once they announce the games.
It's kind of washed out but it's hard to see whether when the PS4Pro hitches do those buildings (scene geometry and textures) load in right in front of our eyes?
And not to belittle this tectonic upgrade, a generation upgrade, however, would next gen assets also not increase in size? Or is it that it will still not be a large enough of an increase to adversely affect the outcome to the point of what loading has been on this gen's systems with 5400RPM stock drives?
And not to belittle this tectonic upgrade, a generation upgrade, however, would next gen assets also not increase in size? Or is it that it will still not be a large enough of an increase to adversely affect the outcome to the point of what loading has been on this gen's systems with 5400RPM stock drives?
Watch the video in this thread and see how they had to design around the speed limitation. Now extrapolate how this can affect how games are designed in the next generation.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/marvels-spider-man-a-technical-postmortem-from-gdc.117383
As someone who peruses and contributes to the speculation thread, this post is embarrassing.
It is not about load times alone. You should go and watch Spider-man's GDC breakdown to get an understanding why SSD (or eUFS or NVMe) allied to CPU that is orders of magnitude better than Jaguar is a game changer for streaming assets and draw calls and how they go together.
Here's a figure for you- 20MB/s, that is what the streaming budget was during gameplay segments of Spiderman because Insomniac had to speculate worst case scenario for people who might swap their already non-stellar 5400RPM 32MB cache stock drives with something worse.
This will be a godsend for Bethesda Game Studios. At least, their games won't be plagued with pop ins and in-game loading due to the game not being proficient enough at loading assets and textures fast.
This'll also be pretty spectacular for all Open World games next gen, speaking from a general stand point.
I rather Sony goes all out in CPU, Ram and fast memory while cutting back on GPU Flops, as those areas will be the fundamental pillars that will truly give us the next-generation "feel".
This'll also be pretty spectacular for all Open World games next gen, speaking from a general stand point.
I rather Sony goes all out in CPU, Ram and fast memory while cutting back on GPU Flops, as those areas will be the fundamental pillars that will truly give us the next-generation "feel".
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