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Vice Media Laying Off Hundreds To Reduce Costs (Waypoint is fine)
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I mean, when Easy Allies has a hard time pulling the patreon numbers they need, I know WayPoint is going to have a rough go. But anything is something.
That was my only experience with Waypoint and it was awful. Quickly moved to Slaent with many others due to how restrictive Waypoint was.
Fuck that sucks
Giant Bomb's budget for the year is probably already set and I doubt they have enough to play with to Hire any new people.
This would really suck. They've been doing a ton lately even if I just focus on their gaming podcasts. Danielle, Patrick, Austin, Natalie, and Rob are all fantastic in their own ways and I hope that if this comes to pass that they will all land on their feet and find a place they are secure and happy. They deserve it.
Waypoint forums let everyone know they are not about sales and hype culture. Ex-GAF members either had to adjust or come here.
What's with companies over expanding leading to major problems? Vice started a cable channel and expanded waypoint and their HBO show then shortly after cutting down workforce and financial troubles. Telltale example comes to mind. Not as drastic obviously but still.
Besidess, Patrick would need to stay remote, and that's not sure conducive to how GB works. Austin feasibly could, but I don't know if he'd even want to.
Ignoring everything else, I don't think the sort of content GB does (i.e mainly video) works with Patrick working off-site.
Losing Waypoint would be a huge loss, if there's any truth to it then I hope they can pull their talent together elsewhere.
If Waypoint ends I hope they all land on their feet. Some great people over there.
MonsterDunk bring Austin home
Yeah, I definitely think you'd get a too-many-cooks vibe in GB East with Austin returning. As for Patrick, I thought he did a really good job of trying to make his remote status work, between the Super Mario Maker stuff and Scoops & the Wolf. But it's also true that Patrick ended up being pretty isolated from what the other two crews were doing, and it's not clear what the path to reconciling that would be.
I think Waypoint was a really good setup for everyone involved and they were very quick out of the gate in terms of establishing a unique voice and community that you can't just merge back into some other site. Throwing that all away would be a shame, even though I get the economics of it from the Vice side.
Last time I checked, ad block rates were 40%+ on gaming websites - can't survive without that revenue.
Waypoint has taken over Polygon as the completely ridiculous video game news sight that I can't take seriously ( Monster Hunter reminds me of Trump sons being the most notable example), but as much as I dislike the site, it's a shame to see so many people lose their jobs.
I feel like Patrick really messed up by leaving Kotaku. He could've had that job for as long as he wanted.
Not unless you have an alternate stream, like GB Premium or Patreon, for sure. It's also why IGN does so much sponsored content, they couldn't survive just off ad revenue. The old model just isn't sustainable anymore. Waypoint was an incredible site, but I always got a bit of a "long-form articles and very little video? I'm not sure how long this will last" vibe from it.
that job looked like torture from the outside, i cant imagine what it was like from the inside.
I hope not because I don't think they really were right for GB in the long run, I hope they keep doing their own thing which seems like it was a really good fit for them and if they appear on GB content occasionally than great.
I like Jason, but yeah. Give me Patrick on either the Bombcast or Beastcast PLEASE.
that isnt happening, they have highered 2 new staffers since they left. also they dont do remote anymore
How so? I never got the impression people disliked working at kotaku
I sure hope everyone lands on their feet.
Isn't this just a continuation of the Patrick curse.
Isn't this just a continuation of the Patrick curse.
Wasn't the impact of video significantly overstated? I can see tweets though. Literally, people only want to digest a snapshot bit of content.
Which sucks, because I pour hours into copy. If I could boil a review down into 280 chars, that would be quite the thing.
Journalism is taking major hits this week, yo. Buzzfeed, now Vice. I wonder if Vox/Polygon are next.
Felt inevitable for a while.
Keep them away from Giant Bomb. Waypoint crew are too good for that.
Keep them away from Giant Bomb. Waypoint crew are too good for that.
Probably says more about you than it does them?
Meh, I don't think he messed up. Waypoint was an incredible opportunity for him to help start up something that truly meant something to him. Kotaku may have had stability, but it wasn't the kind of content Patrick wanted to put out (or was good at). Anytime Patrick published something at Kotaku, it felt super out of place with the rest of what they did. Honestly, the same was true of Giant Bomb to a degree.
While I loved loved LOVED Patrick and Austin at Giant Bomb, I think that they both have different goals about what they want to focus on and accomplish with their careers. And so while selfishly it'd be cool if they came back and cool if GB was able to keep them able to pay rent, I think they've sort've grown into a different direction than the 'entertainer' direction.
Crossing my fingers for my Waypoint crew. I love them and hope all the best for them. This is some real bullshit and Waypoint's voice is extremely important right now.
There was a time not long ago when this post would have been 100% sarcasm.