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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
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They should totally go after Toei Twitter, and make sure to note that it was Vic who sent them.
This is why people desperately need to get second opinions on legal matters. I'm sure every appellate attorney in the area basically said the equivalent of "are you high?".
Unless they are trying to get some ground-breaking case to the US Supreme Court, no lawyer *aims* for appeal as their go-to option. Ideally, you want the Judge to rule in your favor because appellate courts are courts of *review* (the VicStans need to get it through their heads that no new evidence comes in), and usually defer to the lower courts on questions of fact most times (and in situations of questions of law, you still have the chance that you'll create some hella bad law).
Oh god. The howls of "WHY WON'T THE APPEALS COURT LOOK AT THIS EVIDENCE? CONSPIRACY!" that will be coming after any appeal is wrapped up.
I find it hilarious that any of these chuds are talking about boycotting as if they'd miss one precious second of Dragon Ball or My Hero Academia.
A lot of them don't give a shit about anime, they're just on board for the harassment.
It's super easy to boycott something you don't care about.
The salt in the replies lol.
Many people who are wishing positive comments and don't even know about the Vic stuff are getting called out by the ISWV crowd shouting 'appeals' 'destroyed an innocence man's career' '#worstbulma' and more.
Oh and one saying that appeals court doesn't favour the left. Yeah, a political term being used for court. Just lol.
I do feel bad for Monica Rial to have to put up with all this but she has a great support network at least ^^
Many people who are wishing positive comments and don't even know about the Vic stuff are getting called out by the ISWV crowd shouting 'appeals' 'destroyed an innocence man's career' '#worstbulma' and more.
Oh and one saying that appeals court doesn't favour the left. Yeah, a political term being used for court. Just lol.
I do feel bad for Monica Rial to have to put up with all this but she has a great support network at least ^^
Fair warning y'all, the replies contain more than your daily recommended amount of sodium.
I love how this just shits all over their conspiracy theories about Toei being pissed and wanting Monica gone.
Maybe they do want to go all the way to the SCOTUS, hey with the current lineup Vic would have a lot more sympathizers than he should
I still don't understand how his fans think this is a conspiracy. Okay, I do... But you get what I mean...
There are comments and posts online that are at least a decade old.
There are comments and posts online that are at least a decade old.
People literally craft their own world with their own internal logic. They ignore and discard anything that challenges the logic. There is a great documentary on netflix about Flat Earth that I think gives a great view of people like this.
Because he's a good Christian man and these are nasty women. Also they probably can't get a date with a woman so you know....
Chef kiss.
And it's even more hilarious when some of these idiots go "I'm watching subs to own Toei and the libs!".
You fucking idiots Toei makes money either you watch subbed or dubbed.
Yeeeah... I've got a feeling there aren't going to be any appeals, or if there are they won't be with Beard and Nick.
I can't fucking fathom that someone would that much of a idiot to not see how much more money they would lose going for an appeal. Then again this is Mignogna we are talking about here.
I don't think there's any lawyer that will want to take the appeal if it's not Ty. Whipple mentioned that Ty is right in saying that switching lawyers for the appeal would probably be a problem for Vic although not because he'll be missing out on Ty's "superior knowledge of war history".
From the lawyer friends I've talked to, even in law school they hammer it into them that you never want to be in a position where you need to bring a case to the appeals court.
Appeal judges are way more strict and need some very clear evidence that the previous judge made a procedural mistake or something like that. In fact, there are lawyers that specifically specialize in appeals because of how much harder and complicated bringing a case to a higher court is.
Appeal judges are way more strict and need some very clear evidence that the previous judge made a procedural mistake or something like that. In fact, there are lawyers that specifically specialize in appeals because of how much harder and complicated bringing a case to a higher court is.
There's a comment in there comparing her to Judas. Imagine comparing Vic to Jesus. These people...
I'm almost certain this poster don't watch anime. Same for a lot of Vic fans bombing Toei's twitter.
And so that finally happens. That will be the second (at least) complaint against Beard, since one of the lawyers who got doxxed by KF also submitted a complaint, since Beard was on record asking for for them to make his life miserable:
Not entirely sure what the chances are of that leading to something. But when it comes to people complaining about Beard, the more the merrier, I guess.
Not entirely sure what the chances are of that leading to something. But when it comes to people complaining about Beard, the more the merrier, I guess.
The delusion is mind-boggling. It's not halftime. It's way past that. The stadium was demolished years ago.
Which is one of the frustrating things about the whole conversation. Constantly hearing things about "the anime community" defending Mignogna. When so many of victsans don't even watch anime, they're right wing cultural carpet baggers.
He forged signatures for the affidavits. I can't imagine he gets away from that.
That too, but that's something he's already been punished once before. This harassment thing is new.
I have seen posts from the anime community of people who are glad that Vic lost his lawsuit and hopes that everything that was brought up in the lawsuit will destroy his professional life and he won't be put on any other major voice acting projects and not invited to conventions in the future.
Being a part of the anime community since at least 1999, I've consistently heard about Vic and his sexual harassment of women and girls since I started attending Otakon in 2001. I actually have friends who personally told me that they were harassed constantly by Vic whenever Vic spotted them at conventions, the reason why they didn't report it was because they were scared that Vic would retaliate by getting his fan club to harass, dox and SWAT them.
And now we know that not only was that likely, but we can add lawsuit to that list.
I still haven't entirely gotten over the insanity of this whole thing, and seeing Vicstans denial of reality after the ruling, just adds an extra layer of "be fucking careful out there."
Well hopefully this lawsuit will cause Vic to be poor and he can't afford to file anymore lawsuits, according to the Anime News Network article about Vic's court loss, anyone who loses a TCPA case will be fined an amount that is "sufficient to deter the party who brought the legal action from bringing similar actions...":
Yeah the sanctions will be interesting.
But even just him having to cover the defenses legal bills will be huge. I believe the Dallas News article casually threw half a mill out there. And for context, Nick has already mentioned on his LiveScreech that the $250K would be gone well before any sanctions could happen. Remember Beardo brought like 4 lawyers from his firm to pretty much every court appearance so far. All of them billing. So if plaintiffs lawyers alone cost quarter of a million, and Vic is on the hook for 3 legal teams, that alone could be fun. Even before we get to the sanctions part.
The law says "reasonable" fees. And Beardos team seems to be unreasonable high priced. Especially considering their performance.
Yep, Beard's law firm website claims that they "offer its clients experienced advocacy for all their legal needs" and that "Founders Ty Beard and Don Harris have assembled a team of lawyers who are leaders in their individual practice areas." This was clearly not the case whatsoever with them trying to defend Vic:
Even better than that, he (Beardo) actually put in his personal bio that he was an expert in defamation, until law twitter pointed out that it could lead to huge problems if it ever came to a malpractice lawsuit. Then it disappeared rather fast. The are screenshots of before and after somewhere in the Threadnought.
Oh wow, I checked the other day and the comments were free of any crazy comments but now the Vic Stans really invaded that thread.
LOOOOOOOOL
Yeah, I looked at the forum thread for that news article and page 1-2 had many people happy that Vic lost his lawsuit however pages after 2 had posts from the ISWV crowd.
Lol he has Tortious Interference on there as well. And reading him vs Chupp on that subject was the best thing ever. That cat photo analogy must have been a wake-up moment for Ty. Or at the very least a facepalm moment for his colleagues.
So, the lesson learned from this lawsuit is is to hire lawyers from the Texas law firms that represented the defendants, NOT the plaintiff: