Starting to?You know, I'm starting to think the conVics think the death threats worked on the judge and that's why mediation was called in.
Starting to?You know, I'm starting to think the conVics think the death threats worked on the judge and that's why mediation was called in.
Well at first I just thought they were just believing whatever they were told to believe. But after reflection I came to the idea that the whole thing is that they thing they scared the judge into changing his mind.
Well at first I just thought they were just believing whatever they were told to believe. But after reflection I came to the idea that the whole thing is that they thing they scared the judge into changing his mind.
They don't think this is a bad legal drama. They think it's a John Grisham book.
I was thinking Dominick Dunne, in a way. "A Season in Purgatory 2: Wait, This Ain't Purgatory" is my goto joke in cases like this
Marc watching Nick's stream.
When you're definitely not losing badly.
Same. I enjoy getting a preview of what will be mocked tomorrow by lawtwitter :PCool, love reading these since I'm interesting in Nick's spin, but don't have the patience to sit through three hours of it.
Marc watching Nick's stream.
When you're definitely not losing badly.
Lol Nick really hanging his hat on "Well the judge might change his mind maybe."
My head hurts.
Yeah, how dare the law requires more than people liking each other Tweets and talking about someone after they were fired to say that a conspiracy happened. The proof is right there.....
Seems like there was a hearing where the judge said they had to do mediation. Doubt there'll be much interesting in it if that was all it was.
I think Ty ad Nick confuse actual conspiracies with conspiracy theories
I genuinely wish I could be in the room when the mediator explains to Vic his situation.Y'know, the really funny part about this "spin" is that knowing Beard and Rekieta they most likely fully believe their own spin. So Beard is gonna waltz into mediation (with Rekieta tagging along in the back) thinking the judge is shook and on the verge of declaring a mistrial when if anything he's doing the complete opposite and giving them a last chance to walk out peacefully.
The schadenfreude is so deliciously palpable I could eat it for breakfast.
Vic would need to offer something REALLY appealing to get out of paying their legal costs at this point tbh. It's the minimum he'll end up owing them.Bet the defendants ask for something reasonable like paying all legal costs.
Vic would need to offer something REALLY appealing to get out of paying their legal costs at this point tbh. It's the minimum he'll end up owing them.
I don't see the defense agreeing to a confidentiality clause unless both Beard and Nick are part of it, which wont happen (mainly because Nick isn't part of any of this directly.) As is, getting Vic to agree to shut his mouth doesn't really achieve much because during this process Nick and Beard and have been his mouthpieces anyway.Law Twitter seems to agree that a confidentiality clause would be the best outcome for plaintiffs, with a promise not to appeal being their only bargaining chip.
In reality though, I imagine Beard stomping in there with Vic, having told him about the case for the first time in 6 months, and loudly proclaiming "Just tell them whatever you want Vicster, we have them by the footballs!"
I don't see the defense agreeing to a confidentiality clause unless both Beard and Nick are part of it, which wont happen (mainly because Nick isn't part of any of this directly.) As is, getting Vic to agree to shut his mouth doesn't really achieve much because during this process Nick and Beard and have been his mouthpieces anyway.
I do agree that Beard is probably going to walk in going "GIVE US A BAJILLION DOLLARS AND WE'LL DROP OUR CASE" though.
Any confidentiality or gag order that doesn't include Rekieta is worthless, the defendants and their lawyers know that, so I don't really see anything coming from this.
Some questions I'm unclear on:
What exactly is the role the mediator plays? Is it akin to a debate moderator or is it more like a third party weighing in with legal position? Is a moderator able to, for instance, tell Beard "look you guys have no chance this is what you are looking at the Judge likely ruling" or do they have to be more impartial?
If mediation fails and all charges are dismissed under the TCPA filing, do defendants stand to take punitive damages in addition to legal fees incurred? I'm trying to understand what they might have have to relinquish in terms of mediating a settlement, because no way should they walk out with less than legal fees paid.
That seems like a reasonable guess at desired outcomes. I'd imagine the defendants have the stronger hand going into mediation; with so many elements dismissed already, and the likelihood that the remaining elements will be dismissed as well, surely Vic is in the position of having to consider agreeing to whatever the defense proposes as it will likely be better than seeing everything publicly dismissed, being on the hook for full fees and sanctions and (given how the judge has given Ty every chance) 0% chance of a successful appeal?
Potential sanctions against Beard and his law firm are the wild card here. If they settle in mediation he might be able to escape those.The thing is that Ty and Nick would actually profit from appealing. They don't care about Vic or how much damages he has to pay in the end, the only thing they care about is to keep this going as long as possible to grift some more money from Vic-Stans. They will absolutely try to get him to appeal.
I agree with the premise, but what you are saying about *plaintiff* based on what would be the smart thing to do. And we all know how Beard feels about doing smart things.
Edit: Argh, wrote defendants instead of plaintiff.
If he realizes how much money he's in for, it's possible he might see the light. If he's as taken as he seems, I don't think mediation will be successful. He let go of his lawyer and I think one more before the GFM and Nick appeared to point to Ty Beard.I don't think Vic would be able to steer his side back once he learns how much of a shitshow Ty has been, since I suspect he might be high on the kool aid himself. Didn't he basically go lawyer shopping until he found one willing to give him the advice he wanted to hear?
I feel trying to guess what's going to go down in mediation is a bit of a loss cause. Mediation assumes two rational, self interested parties. The plaintiffs have been irrational and frankly, ridiculous, throughout this process.
I don't think Vic would be able to steer his side back once he learns how much of a shitshow Ty has been, since I suspect he might be high on the kool aid himself. Didn't he basically go lawyer shopping until he found one willing to give him the advice he wanted to hear?
From all appearances, Vic's been pretty detached from the whole case. He handed Beard the keys to the car, so to say, who drove over to Nick's place, drank a six pack or two, and ended up upside-down in a ditch. Now Vic's got a trashed car, Beard's got a throbbing hangover, and decisions have to be made.If he realizes how much money he's in for, it's possible he might see the light. If he's as taken as he seems, I don't think mediation will be successful. He let go of his lawyer and I think one more before the GFM and Nick appeared to point to Ty Beard.
Just last weekend he apparently called out something to the effect of "lawyers who have nothing better to do than to tweet about something that doesn't concern them"From all appearances, Vic's been pretty detached from the whole case. He handed Beard the keys to the car, so to say, who drove over to Nick's place, drank a six pack or two, and ended up upside-down in a ditch. Now Vic's got a trashed car, Beard's got a throbbing hangover, and decisions have to be made.
Just last weekend he apparently called out something to the effect of "lawyers who have nothing better to do than to tweet about something that doesn't concern them"
We just don't know if he'll wake up when the mediator talks to him or if he'll keep relying on these people who he happily gave the reins to.