A really good actor like Michael Rooker. Gonna be tough to act that dumb.
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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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Every time I look at his transcript the same phrase keeps coming in to my head: "if only you thought to plead it". You can't just bamboozle people at the hearing in litigation. All sides play with their cards face up.
Even if Percy decides to appeal, what the hell is he going to appeal it with? The record is just so ridiculously thin. Not to mention he should be raked over the coals by the state ethics committee for creating such an incomplete record to begin with. He left so much stuff out that he could have used.
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Like god, the judge was trying to give Beard a potential out there, and he was too stupid/incompetent that even take that much. Like, he's basically making the defense's argument for them there. How did someone like did manage to get licensed and even get this far?
I'm reminded of the scene in My Cousin Vinny where Joe Pesci tries getting friendly with the judge in order to dupe him into swiping evidence from the prosecution, and he gets all excited that it worked only for Marisa Tomei to call him a massive idiot for not knowing that all presented evidence from both sides is supposed to be available.
No surprises, Percy.
Later in that very conversation,
Beard: <Arguing that VA's are a employees, he certainly thinks they are!>
Defense: Affidavit from Vic, he says he's a independent contractor, affidavit from Funi Exec, says their independent contractors.
Beard: Objection, they're not experts on independent contracting!
Your reminder that My Cousin Vinny understood the law better than Percy does.
The scene in question - couldn't get it before because I was mobile:
My Cousin Vinny knowing more than Percy isn't surprising, considering My Cousin Vinny was directed by a law graduate, which the movie's legal accuracy is often attributed to. The surprising bit is apparently none of them - Percy, BFL, even R. Broly - have ever seen the movie once in their entire lives. Like, this is pre-law 101 we're talking about here.
Man,Beard is really bad at this. Even when he's not screwing up definitions his attempts at offense are so feeble.
I ended up reading that filing finishing at like 3am and having to head to my nephews birthday at 8:30 the next morning. So I missed a fair bit. Really enjoying Mike's (rather sober) takes on it. Especially since I think I have a tendency to concentrate on the "funny" bits when reading it myself.
Not a stream, he is just tweeting his way through it. I somehow keep calling it live tweeting, even if that isn't really the case, since he has called it that himself.
Ok, Mike is heading out of the (rather sober)-tag here. Which is understandable, since this entire thing is just amazing.
But still, I love his way of describing these things:
Edit: I wrote somewhere earlier in the thread that I had lowered my standards to being impressed if Beard was able to enter the courtroom without shitting his pants. There more I read, the less sure I am that he met that standard.
But still, I love his way of describing these things:
Edit: I wrote somewhere earlier in the thread that I had lowered my standards to being impressed if Beard was able to enter the courtroom without shitting his pants. There more I read, the less sure I am that he met that standard.
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I've got a passing interest in law and follow various lawtwitter accounts now since they found out about the lawsuit. Sorta like expanding my knowledge by finding HistorianTwitter. Anyway, it's kinda telling when they collectively dunk on your court hearing.
SO many of them are pretty much "If the judge said this to me I'd melt/die/etc"
SO many of them are pretty much "If the judge said this to me I'd melt/die/etc"
Ikr? This was never a love of mine. And I cannot say anime was. But it has been wonderful to see lawyer-twitter dunking on this. Sadly they (the chuds) will move on to something else that does not have an ongoing legal case and make other people miserable.
Really fucking hope lawyer twitter keeps this up to some extent.
This one still blows my mind every single time.
Oooooo. Historical twitter. That sounds awesome, any recommends?
Oooooo. Historical twitter. That sounds awesome, any recommends?
Kevin M. Kruse is my main go-to and he has a twitter list-thread of others.
God like I don't know why people believe Ty or Nick on these. "I lost these contracts!" "I can't provide those to you they were handshaken." "Names?" "HE SAID IN HIS DEPOSITION WHICH HE PLEAD TO AND YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE THESE AS FACT YOUR HONOR"
Like, you got fucking affidavits for these people up to the hearing how the fuck you can only get Stan Dahlin or Slatosch to answer you?
He might have made it into the court room without shit in his pants, but he certainly left with a pile in his drawers.
Reading the Tweets were great. I thought it was horrible and I'm a layman. Seeing lawyers go 'this is horrible' really brings to light how much Beard screwed up. Seriously, whoever gave him his degree in law needs to asked for their diploma back. And that is if he really got a law license since I'm wondering if he faked it.
And I feel sorry for the judge. He must have been thinking what he did wrong on his life to lead him to this moment.
And I feel sorry for the judge. He must have been thinking what he did wrong on his life to lead him to this moment.
You know... Getting lost in a 2 hour fight with these people on Twitter is really something... I had People tell me that Funimation's stocks are dropping because of the leaks and the casting couch shit and when I post Sony's stock prices actually some of the highest since their crash in the early 2000s they're screeching "I said Funimation! Not Sony! Their Stocks and Subscribers are dropping!" It's never a thought to them that Funimation is not a traded company... It's like... The YouTube people tell them these things and it never enters their mind that they are being lied to... I'd feel bad for them if they weren't so proud of their stupidity.
As far as I can tell Funimation isn't even on the stock market, so WTF are they talking about?
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Exactly! It'd be like if Marvel was on the Exchange. It's a subsidiary of Disney just like Funi is for Sony. They just listen and parrot whatever the YouTube merchants tell them.
This is what I don't get. If the conventions were hostile, why not bring a motion to conduct discovery and compel them to answer under oath. It's like he didn't run his answer against even a cursory list of the elements of the case. The affidavits from JSL are devastating but they are in dispute. All he needed to do is get the con rep on the record saying that we were potentially going to invite Vic, we saw the allegations sent to us by the defendant, and we decided to decline Vic's attendance. Whether the allegations are true or not, Vic has the chance to deny them in his response and the judge has to take the plaintiff's side on questions of fact.
That Percy didn't do that is mind boggling.
That Percy didn't do that is mind boggling.
It's more mind boggling you still think they're competent enough to even think that far ahead. ;D
It's yet another sign that Percival is either a true believer or has grifted himself so hard he's conned himself into thinking he's one.
Like if he was actually a decent conman he would've done as you said, or if the cons didn't give him that at least spin it to make it sound correlated. It would've been bullshit but it'd at least be an active play.
But instead he's an imbecile so up his own ass he legit believes Funi told all these cons to cancel and then just never saw the need to verify that.
My favorite part of this is that Tomei knows about discovery, yet her first reaction is that he stole the files.
The reason he didn't is because fucking up here means he may be able to Con Vic into trying an appeal promising that he's got all good so he can make more money. This is about stretching this case and the money train as far as he can go.
We got a transcript of the hearing on Friday, and Beard is far, far worse than the livetweets made him out to be in court.
I certainly wouldn't hire him to argue a case. Any case.
Well, if someone asked me to recommend a lawyer for vic, he's at the top of my list. Absolutely the best guy to get justice here.
Wait, failed?! B-but I thought we shouldn't be spiking the football yet thooo.
Edit: also, "almost-incoherent" is giving Percy's performance too much credit. It was just complete nonsense all the way through.
Edit2: finished reading it, good article.
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I would feel bad for him if he wasn't a piece of shit that spend the whole time pretrial talking shit about the defendants on a grifter's youtube channel and asking people to doxx them and anyone who criticized him and his rapist client.
This was a good article for those who haven't been keeping up with the whole thing.
Disregarding his general fuckupery, I thought there was a stay on discovery for the TCPA hearing. So he couldn't compel them to answer under oath.
But nothing prevented him from talking to them, and he didn't even do that.