oh, yea forgot he was a trust fund baby. SMH. Kinda puts the pieces together in place.
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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
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Umm isn't the idiot still somewhat claiming he's a lawyer. He should still BE a notary. Not WAs a notary.
I'm pretty certain that was a rhetorical question. He's either denying that fraudulent notarization is a thing or saying that it's something else, and so notarizing documents for people that aren't present doesn't fit the definition. What happened here was just an "error". A few more tweets from that chain:
A Notary Public is personally liable for negligence or fraud in the course of performing his or her duties. The bond a Notary Public is required to post is meant to ensure that the injured party can recover up to $10,000, but the Notary can still be held personally liable for any damages he or she has caused and may be subject to criminal prosecution and revocation or suspension of his or her notary public commission.
Types of notary fraud can include:
Failing to acknowledge your documents
Falsified stamps
Allowing the signer to sign a document while the Notary Public is not present.
In the case of Notary fraud you do not have to be doing it to cause damages. Just doing a notary improperly is notary fraud.
In addition to the, admittedly crappy source, I as a notary know it's fraud on my part if I do not have the person in front of me, with an unsigned document and an state issued ID, and I notarized it anyways.
It would be fraud even if I did it for a hand written letter saying that the person really likes pie.
I swear BFL is so fucking lame and these lame ass ISWV people just eat it all up.
To quote the Monarch in Venture Bros.
"You think your hot shit in a champagne glass, but really you're cold diarrhea in a Dixie cup."
the latest development certainly delivered.
I swear it's too bad there's no ongoing law show worth watching these days, it would be absolutely hilarious to see how a tv show would tackle this case.
The good thing is that the accusation was so spectacularly incompetent that it's gonna be a case study in law schools in English speaking countries at least.
I swear it's too bad there's no ongoing law show worth watching these days, it would be absolutely hilarious to see how a tv show would tackle this case.
The good thing is that the accusation was so spectacularly incompetent that it's gonna be a case study in law schools in English speaking countries at least.
Poked around Beard's website again for no reason, and it has a website version of a freudian slip. Under "services", if you click "read more", it just leads you to "sorry, this page doesn't exist".
Now, jokes aside, the page does exist and can be accessed by the top bar, it just isn't linked correctly there. But I'm thinking this way makes more sense (also this way doesn't claim that they handle defamation which evidently)
FAKE EDIT:
This is a tweet chain worth clicking on. In response to some Vic stan pretending to be a lawyer (may or may not be joking) insisting that all lawyers file things late, legal twitter dude goes through Ty's activities to show how much of his time he's pissed away while working on this case.
He also brings up a point that didn't really occur to me until now; Beard's stalling tactics would make sense if he's trying to win through superior tolerance to legal fees, but he tried to do that with a corporation.
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I was actually coming here to post that chain.
Also check out Marc Whipple's Screech Live tweets they are gold and a good way to keep up with the narrative conVics are being fed.
Edit forgot to post the tweets for Marc
Also check out Marc Whipple's Screech Live tweets they are gold and a good way to keep up with the narrative conVics are being fed.
Edit forgot to post the tweets for Marc
Comments from Chris Sabat and Funimation employees
Anime News Network has produced a new article summarizing the past weekend's nonsense, complete with comments from Chris Sabat himself and anonymous FUNi employees. Highlights below:
That seems to be the view for a while now. I really do not understand why he did what he did.
It's glorious, it might even manage to be a move that hit the lolyer with how it's been fraudulently notarized as well.
Really a masterpiece.
Could Vic not get someone better or was this the only person to help him with how much dirt is on Vic?
He blindly listened to Nick who, himself, was overwhelmed by the support he received and didn't want to lose "power" so he advised the first dude he had, Ty, a complete moron that has a level of incompetence never seen before.
Since Chuck is about to lose his career to a supposedly fraudulent affidavit, this is going to be a hilarious case to follow.
It's mindboggling to me that in a statement full of lies and half-truths used to misrepresent Vic's abusive behaviour, "everyone keeps calling Vic gay" isn't looking to be one of the lies. Huber's affidavit has been a bizarre turn.
The legitimacy seems to be that Vic might have had a "casting couch".
The legitimacy seems to be that Vic might have had a "casting couch".
The only people who talked about it as far as I know are trying to lose a defamation case....
Not really, but ironically enough there could be one with Vic, it was posted a few pages or so with that one girl he's with was in an anime he was the adr director for.
Anyone better would have told him not to do it. I believe he met with another lawyer or two that said as much? Or at least did not put him on this path.
This was a certain angry YouTuber getting a family friend - who's used to handling a very different area of law - to take the case and profit (to some unknown degree w/r/t this being the priority) off the crowdfunding.
Not as far as anyone else has said or ANN's reporting has dug up.
I'd be reluctant to say it's confirmed to be false, especially cause IIRC it's out there that Funimation wasn't great to work for in the past. But as far as this case goes, nothing's really backing it up.
Ever since that funimation leak, there have been so many things flying around I can't tell what is legitamate and what is just trying to distract from Vic or create a false equivalence.
I love when Nick does the
*is confronted with a statement about his position*
*Incredulously asks question*
*Gets answer*
*Either insults or continues to ask questions rather than clarifying his position or citing legal precedent*
It almost reminds me of Ben Shapiro, but Shapiro is at least motor-mouthed enough to pull it off with some regularity. On Twitter, photographed for everyone to see, it just comes off as pathetic. In real time, obviously he gets hundreds of likes for every reply and his opponent gets ratio'd on his timeline, so he probably feels like he's winning, but he never actually answers anything sensibly.
*is confronted with a statement about his position*
*Incredulously asks question*
*Gets answer*
*Either insults or continues to ask questions rather than clarifying his position or citing legal precedent*
It almost reminds me of Ben Shapiro, but Shapiro is at least motor-mouthed enough to pull it off with some regularity. On Twitter, photographed for everyone to see, it just comes off as pathetic. In real time, obviously he gets hundreds of likes for every reply and his opponent gets ratio'd on his timeline, so he probably feels like he's winning, but he never actually answers anything sensibly.
Google Drive with all relevant documents
Well, I found a Google Drive folder with all the court filings regarding this lawsuit:
Source of this link:
Source of this link:
So let me see if I got this.
Chuck Huber accuses various people at Funimation of misdeeds, despite being a contract worker and not an actual employee. Never mind that just about every voice actor is a contract worker for Funi and being a Funimation employee is entirely different. And of course Funimation tells ANN that a lot of it is lies or misrepresentation.
Why would Huber do this? Self-sabotage his own career like this? Is he one of those "good Christian men" that believes he's being persecuted for his beliefs, and because Vic is also a "good Christian man" he believes he's also being persecuted?
Did he think he wasn't replaceable? Because he totally is.
Chuck Huber accuses various people at Funimation of misdeeds, despite being a contract worker and not an actual employee. Never mind that just about every voice actor is a contract worker for Funi and being a Funimation employee is entirely different. And of course Funimation tells ANN that a lot of it is lies or misrepresentation.
Why would Huber do this? Self-sabotage his own career like this? Is he one of those "good Christian men" that believes he's being persecuted for his beliefs, and because Vic is also a "good Christian man" he believes he's also being persecuted?
Did he think he wasn't replaceable? Because he totally is.
I'm at a point where i assume, that everyone who is still defending Nick is either an Idiot, has done the same things, wants to somehow earn money or a combination of all those three things.
I still think it's a grudge against Chris Huber an a persecution complex based on being a "good Christian man" as you said. It's dripping over all his affidavit. Two of the things we knew about Huber already was that he was a conservative Christian and that he's weird as hell.
There's also the possibility that he brought this whole thing up as a cheap ruse to distract from Vic in which case I don't even fucking know. Maybe it could still be a persecution complex. Maybe Huber will have a bunch of a skeletons in his closet that will be brought out before this is over.
At the very least, it's pretty clear that the 'CHRIS CONTROLS FUNIMATION'S CASTING PROCESS' argument is bullshit, since Chris doesn't actually work for Funimation as an employee.
As was pointed out by one of the sources in the ANN article, this "he's Christian so they're put off and discriminating" stuff is fucking bonkers when you consider Caitlin Glass is an open and devout Christian and isn't, you know, a creepy or bigoted person. Hell she helped Vic a few times with his little Sunday bible panels or whatever at cons prior to 2010 or so (presumably and without proof, I assume it's because she started hearing rumors about him, but we can't actually know why she stopped). And now she's openly supported people he victimized.
Like, your religion isn't an excuse to discriminate or be a sex pest without getting reprisal, lmao. In the end, it's YOUR religion- YOUR mindset. You make the active choice to believe what you want.
Like, your religion isn't an excuse to discriminate or be a sex pest without getting reprisal, lmao. In the end, it's YOUR religion- YOUR mindset. You make the active choice to believe what you want.
I forget who it was, but there's an affidavit from.... I want to say the staff at a con, who was basically saying this same thing about about Vic claiming religious persecution for not being given a big enough room. She noted that she was a Christian herself, and didn't feel like Vic's presentation was a Christian presentation, but just self-aggrandizing.
It's weird, but there are genuinely some people out there who really, really want to be able to call themselves victims. They're just the ones who will step on legitimate victims to do so. It's like how white supremacists go on about white genocide because, hey, all the other people who claim genocide get sympathy points, let's get us some of that too.
Ah... to be clear, this is what most of us have been relying on the whole time, haha. Shane's been the one paying for/storing/sharing a lot of the filings.
It'd be worth threadmarking this or even putting it in the OP at this point, honestly.
There are a lot of Christians (and this behavior is not exclusively Christian) who are terrible people, in violation of the teachings of God and Jesus, but they don't believe that this disqualifies them from being Christian. Like, Vic was confronted in his deposition with the wanton immorality of his acts, and asked how he resolves them with his loud claims of Christianity, and his response was "I've made a lot of mistakes". Humans are flawed creatures, and Jesus forgives mistakes, so... it's all cool! Vic can do whatever the hell he wants, whenever he wants, as many times as he wants, while constantly claiming the moral high ground, because Vic's Christianity headcanon says that Vic is allowed to smash that reset button as often as he pleases.
And, there are a lot of Christians (and again, I don't mean to suggest that this is exclusively Christian behavior) who engage in tribalism, and see anyone who self-identifies as a Christian as being superior to anyone who doesn't.
Add in the fact that Chuck Huber is apparently a conspiracy theorist, and conspiracy theorists tend to have a weakness for conspiracy theories. It's not 100% but, when you believe in one conspiracy (like say, flat Earth), there's a good chance you believe in another (like Q Anon, or anti-vaxx, or aliens, or the faked moon landing, or Bigfoot). And when you believe in two or more, there's a much bigger chance that you start to believe in all (or most) of them, because there's something off in your head that is rejecting sensible conclusions and is embracing conspiracy and paranoia.
Chuck Huber seems to have a hate-boner for Chris Sabat. Could be for any reason, but at the very minimum, Huber seems to have observed Sabat openly shitting on Vic's immoral, hypocritical brand of Christianity, and Huber switched into tribalism mode. Sabat, an inferior non-Christian heathen, is speaking against Vic, a superior moral Christian? How dare he? That's an affront to Huber's own Christianity.
Add to it the fact that Vic called out a "Funimation conspiracy" attempting to bring him down and destroy him, and Huber (being a flat-Earther, and quite possibly weak against conspiracies) presumably decided that a Funimation conspiracy was real, but contrary to Vic's idea that it was all the women who were against him, Huber thinks that Sabat is the mastermind (because Huber clearly hates Sabat).
It's worth noting that in Huber specifically has a stated interest in fringe science and the flat earth stuff was just a given example of that. As in, he specifically seeks out positions which suggest conspiracy theories ("what mainstream scientists aren't telling you!"), rather than being something he just passive absorbs because he isn't that bright.
It might also suggest that these sort of persecution narratives appeal to him.
Yeah, so he's way past "dabbling" a little in some playful fun conspiracy theories. I didn't pay much attention to it last time it came up, as it didn't seem relevant as to why he was making problems for himself by inserting himself into a dispute that didn't concern him. It's certainly relevant now, now that he's torpedoed his voice acting career by lobbing unfounded accusations against his well-respected boss as part of a conspiracy theory intended to protect a real sexual harasser in his workplace.
Was just going through that LiveScreech transcript someone linked earlier, and noticed Nick can't stream Friday and Saturday.
It is really sad that he is missing out on what will surely be a moment of glory.
Gonna be interesting to the see Vicstans having to spend two entire days after the hearing without getting their talking points served up. Headless chicken time incoming.
It is really sad that he is missing out on what will surely be a moment of glory.
Gonna be interesting to the see Vicstans having to spend two entire days after the hearing without getting their talking points served up. Headless chicken time incoming.
If I'm not mistaken I believe some studios are directly involved in the casting process when a foreign distributor dubs their properties. For example on a commentary track for an early episode of One Piece (during one of the arcs for the East Blue Saga) Luci Christian mentioned that she, along with the other main cast members were approved by both Toei and Oda.
So the casting couch theory does seem like attempt to craft a narrative that Vic's behavior was the norm and that everyone was doing something shady at Funimation.
The parts of Huber's affidavit about him being persecuted because he's a christian or being intimidated into remaining silent about he's perceived innocence of Vic reads like it's something out of a christian film. The part about Fukunaga meeting with him like a mob boss saying "Vic is going to lose, he'll have to pay the defendants legal fees, etc." is similar to the christian boogeyman of "secular academia" or Planned Parenthood threatening to use the full force of their power to bury someone because they believe god exists, abortion is murder, or whatever talking point the film is trying to push.
Although I get the feeling they won't put out a press release about severing ties with Chuck Huber. They'll likely won't tell him about upcoming roles or if he does audition, they won't put him in for final consideration. They'll just quietly phase him out.
The Japanese rights holders are more involved these days. Likely to avoid more 4Kids incidents. Funi originally wanted a man to voice Luffy (they had Eric Vale in mind) but Toei and Oda demanded a woman play him.
Similarly, I saw a panel with Jalen K. Casell, the voice of Okuyasu in Jojo Part 4, and he mentioned how they had to send his audition tape to Japan for approval.
No wonder so many of those movies exist if that's how they feel all the time. Bleh...
Yeah I see Huber being phased out without making a big deal of it. Lying in court about a company you work for isn't going to be a good look.
It's a shame to hear about Chuck Huber. I met him at my local Comicon a couple of years ago, I didn't talk with him much, but he seemed like a real stand-up guy. He actually signed a Dragon Ball print that I bought there totally free.
I guess I'll just cover up that signature with a post-it note, or something.
I guess I'll just cover up that signature with a post-it note, or something.
Mostly a lot of nothing but rumors from unnamed employees. Frankly, it sounds like Ty played into this paranoid delusions and convinced him all these things were true, wrote the affidavit and then had Chuck sign it.
don't forget about
Aka when he tried to get the victims to claim they were wrong and by saying what they have it will be harder for real victims to come forward
tried to get funimation to claim they were wrong and donate 512k to charity
and tried to get Vic off with a slap on the wrist.
