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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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Chuck Huber is accusing Chris Sabat of pulling a "casting couch" to hire some actresses.
Ironically, it's more likely Vic did that as his side-piece, Chelsea Beard, was cast as an extra in a show he was ADR Director on.
Apparently from an email.
And really, really oops on this in general:
Not gonna lie, I wasn't expecting anything to come from the claims that Beard faked the signatures on those affadavitz, but boy do I have egg on my face.
Which as you said, people have guessed that is because Vic either was the one or one of the ones who did it and Huber just didn't want to say it.
He actually wasn't accusing Sabat of it, the affadavit is just worded weird to make it seem that way. He specifically does not mention Sabat's name in that section just "funimation employees."
Which as you said, people have guessed that is because Vic either was the one or one of the ones who did it and Huber just didn't want to say it.
It's impressive how versatile that image of Greg has been lolIs CBS All Access worth it now!?
;)
Ah okay. Just Chuck not helping the case at all then...
Making it an even bigger clusterfuck..
Bojangles? A man of tasteIs CBS All Access worth it now!?
;)
Everything about his affidavit was a garbage fire for the plaintiffs and it's insane that they filed it. That's not even taking into account that they committed fraud by doing so.
Speaking of which. If the incredibly damaging to Vic stuff in Huber's affidavit was deemed okay by Beard, you gotta wonder what he deemed so bad that he removed it...
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I'm not a law expert, but I'm pretty sure this is censure-worthy.
With the level of competence on display here, I yet *again* have to turn the notch down a bit on Percy. I will now be impressed if he enters the courthouse without shitting his pants.
Wait.
Because what Chuck had said was a total disaster for Vic. (And himself)
I really wonder now what actually happened and what was removed.
I wonder if Beard signed it himself (his firm was caught doing it).
That'd explain why it was impossible to make any sense of Huber's affidavit.
And moreover it would mean Beard just threw that heavily edited nonsensical bullshit just to give food to Nick.
Because what Chuck had said was a total disaster for Vic. (And himself)
I really wonder now what actually happened and what was removed.
I wonder if Beard signed it himself (his firm was caught doing it).
That'd explain why it was impossible to make any sense of Huber's affidavit.
And moreover it would mean Beard just threw that heavily edited nonsensical bullshit just to give food to Nick.
There are 4 new filings from Beard on Shane Holmberg's gdrive. I am gonna just wait for one of the lawyers to have a look first, since it seems Ty is both filing and striking to remove the latest Vic affidavit. He seems to be playing 48D Tic Tac Toe or something.
Edit: Ok, I am not the only confused by that, at least:
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Looks like Mike is gearing up to livetweet them. He's instantly unimpressed by them though.
Gonna go stock up on popcorn... I somehow thought the stupidity would be hitting on Friday. But it seems that when you hire Beard & Bollocks, every day is stupid day.
This has always been a garbage fire of a lawsuit. I just never expected Percy to start throwing entire barrels of gasoline onto the fire.
We're getting livetweets of multiple of Beard's disasters and probably of some competent responses from Defense later today. Then a Nintendo Direct tomorrow! What a good week.
Simply saying "we goofed" and falling on the judge's sword would have been much better both from a "I need to salvage my professsional reputation" standpoint and "i need not to piss the judge off further" than this motion that makes them look incredibly shifty and even more incompetent
Lol, right?
It seems like they would have been better admitting "it wasn't done on time, we got it in a bit late, please forgive us." rather than "Hey lets lie and then also attach evidence that shows we lied."
Beard's firm is already on record for doing this kind of shit and has been sanctioned for it. I'm going to guess that they do this kind of stuff pretty frequently, but they usually get away with it with cases that aren't under such intense scrutiny by the general public like this one.
Also Steven Universe yesterday and Ducktales today. Lots of entertaining things this week 😊
This Comment from me aged poorly. Screech was on live stream claiming she is the woman that Sabatt supposedly tried to casting couch.
It is kind of amazing the way the supposedly exculpatory evidence these guys come up with not only fail to deflect the accusations but only, in the face of further investigation, make their side look even worse.
Jebus ... here comes the pain!
"This is an instance when the integrity of the Court is threatened by the behavior of a licensed attorney in the State of Texas,and three witnesses willing to participate in his schemes.Severe sanctions are warranted, including the striking of the "Response," "Motion to Strike," and Second Amended Petition. "
"This is an instance when the integrity of the Court is threatened by the behavior of a licensed attorney in the State of Texas,and three witnesses willing to participate in his schemes.Severe sanctions are warranted, including the striking of the "Response," "Motion to Strike," and Second Amended Petition. "
Ty Beard out here thinking he's some hot shit S1-S2 Tyrion Lannister but really he's S7-S8 Tyrion
At this point I'm more thinking S8 ep 5 Euron.
As in a blowhard who think he's going in the glory when he's a douche that can be easily dispatched by an opponent with hands tied.
Right, I think in a way Rekieta's weird monologues about justice are probably more in line with S7-S8 Tyrion in retrospect
"Not a guaranteed loss" is quite a ways from "a good idea", though. If Beard was not a complete idiot - so we're looking at a universe where there's an entirely different human being with his name and profession - you'd still have to deal with the fact that Vic has the uphill battle of proving falsity, you'd still have to deal with the fact that he has to prove that contracts were actually affected by the defendants, you'd have to isolate it to those you accused and avoid Vic's existing reputation. If you can't realistically handle these than at least you'd need to successfully manage intimidation tactics before your suit is taken down.
I'm not convinced that Beard ever had a realistic possibility of winning this suit. As in, the suit that Beard actually created. What he might have been able to have won is a much more carefully thought out, probably much more focused and specific suit that targeted specific vulnerable areas - like, say, if they had already consulted with the various cons beforehand and focused on tortious interference with Kamehacon specifically from the start.
In fact, consider that Beard has been completely changing his story as the flaws with his filings have been coming out. I thing that even he on some level had realized that his suit wasn't going to work and tried to change it as far as he could as it went.
I'd agree it was a blessing, and Beard's incompetence doubly so, but I think the blessing was that Vic left the secure position of just laying back and being comfortable that the burden of proof lies in his favour position if someone goes after him and instead entered into one where all of the responsibility falls on him. If Vic had decided that he was okay with cutting his losses than he'd likely suffer no punishment beyond losing his VA career and being dropped by a bunch of conventions.
Reading through the new filing, and yeah, Sean Lemoine is pissed off. This isn't just lawyer shade anymore, weapons are out and it's time for the Iron Price (to keep the GoT thing going from the last few posts).
This is a bold move, Lemoine runs the real risk of going too far in the Court's eyes.
This is a bold move, Lemoine runs the real risk of going too far in the Court's eyes.
so it seems like the "reported" error of submission of the file being too big was a lie.
The system keeps track of when and why things are submitted or rejected and it seems like they initially tried filing 15 minutes after the deadline so the system was set to not allow any changes, which is why the file had problems being submitted... because the system was working as intended and they missed the deadline.
The system keeps track of when and why things are submitted or rejected and it seems like they initially tried filing 15 minutes after the deadline so the system was set to not allow any changes, which is why the file had problems being submitted... because the system was working as intended and they missed the deadline.
If you said it was his first case of any type, I'd believe it.
Not sure how bold it is. This seems a pretty clear cut case of Beard falsifying notarization of three different documents that he submitted to the court. He got a months extension and still couldn't find the time apparently (these live streams apparently both take time and cause hangovers) to get these documents notarized legally.
He also lies in a different document about why he filed it late. This seems like amateur hour to the max.
So, since Friday at midnight, Ty has:
- Filed a critical motion in an unfinished form a half hour after a deadline he had asked for a month ago;
- Included in that motion fraudulently notarized affidavits (that also sink his client's case, one of which contradicts his client's sworn testimony);
- Threatened the other side when confronted about the notarization issue;
- Filed a request to forgive his lateness with the judge that lies about the reason the motion was late, and includes documents demonstrating those lies;
- Tried to withdraw the affidavits due to "defects in form"; and
- Included the content of the affidavits as "unsworn declarations" in an amended petition he filed even though he is barred from submitting it without leave from the judge.
The fact that he doesnt get how notaries work is the most telling to me.
I am a notary and I often have people bringing in presigned documents or try to get me to notarize things for people not there and we tell them "No!"
Those are just regular people though, most haven't even heard of notaries outside of pop culture at best.
Percy is a fucking lawyer. He should know better than ME let alone randos off the street.
And as he is usually an Estates lawyer it makes me question how many wills, trust and power of attornies he's just stamped with no one being there at all.
I am a notary and I often have people bringing in presigned documents or try to get me to notarize things for people not there and we tell them "No!"
Those are just regular people though, most haven't even heard of notaries outside of pop culture at best.
Percy is a fucking lawyer. He should know better than ME let alone randos off the street.
And as he is usually an Estates lawyer it makes me question how many wills, trust and power of attornies he's just stamped with no one being there at all.
It really depends on the Judge here. Many of them take a very dim view of what they perceive as someone trying to do their job for them, and you never want to piss off the Judge presiding over your case.
I mean, yeah, this shit that Percy is pulling here is freaking obvious. But generally you want the court to come to their own conclusions (even if you're kinda guiding them down your path), not just flat out say "you must do this".
EDIT: An example from Mike Dunford's current livetweetstreamthang on this new filing:
The meter was at 15. The first paragraph redlined it anyway. The second blows it up completely. This is also a high-risk paragraph; in some ways even moreso than the conclusion. It's perilously close to being a challenge to the judge; judges don't always take that well.
If this were a normal case with normal lawyers and standard litigation practices, yes, he definitely would run the risk of going too far out there.
In this situation though, Beard is not only trying to gaslight the court, but is also flagrantly disregarding Civil Procedure rules (there are many, many, many reasons that you don't amend your goddamn complaint/petition days before the actual hearing)... Judge could very well be like "good thing they said it and not me," which is still not a good spot to be in
Fair enough, and point taken.
But in cases like this for example, where the judge would have to read through what is now 2.000+ pages to get up to speed, isn't that also kinda their job?
As I read through these documents, they seem to all be in a format explaining why the reach the recommendation and conclusion that they do. So the judge can read the summaries on both sides, doublecheck with the footnotes (LOL Beard) and ofc check that everything is in compliance with the law.
This is just, probably more than any case in recent memory, one side shooting bearded fish in a barrel.
Greg mentioned that. But from the document is seems Lemoine and Johnson mostly reacted to the 3 documents all being notarized on the same date in Lemoines office just before his deadline. One of them, Slatosch, was at a con rather far away, so that rose suspicion. Then they asked for proof, which lead to panic from the Beard.
Oh, so it's not an issue with the placement of the stamp itself, but that the notary is supposed to identify the people involved and it stretches belief to claim that actually happened?
I'm wondering if maybe Beard should have just spent the weekend on it at this point. Like, it's not going to get any later when it's delivered on the holiday, he could have at least not rushed it out.
EDIT: Beard threatened someone when the notarization issue was brought to him? How is it that I was watching the thread over the weekend and I seem to have missed stuff?
It is that it strains belief that they would all pop into Beards office on the same day to get the documents notarized. Lemoine even made a handy little box with their addresses (OMG DOXX) and how far exactly they each where from Beards office, where the notarization supposedly took place.
Edit: omg...
When someone gets their signature notarized they need to present an ID (usually a driver's license) for the notary to verify that they are who they say, give a ink fingerprint in the notary's journal, and sign both the journal and the document. It's pretty unlikely that that guy who was at a con far away to have done that in Beard's office.