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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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They can't even use the fear the beard thing anymore, since duck dynasty sent them a letter.
Looks like Ty got the delay in the TCPA hearing, but whether filing deadlines have been set is yet to be seen.
Edit: nevermind it's been set
Yeah that's the bit that annoys me. I know this is standard but it just re-energized Vic's base
Vic said he had no affiliation with the GFM, so I'm not sure he has access to that money
For the record. Greg and some other lawyers already commented on the possibility this would happen, so this isn't left-field.
Regardless, I'm reading this just amounts to a schedule change? Also something about this preventing a "trial by ambush," although I don't know what that is.
Regardless, I'm reading this just amounts to a schedule change? Also something about this preventing a "trial by ambush," although I don't know what that is.
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Eh, I was concerned for a fleeting moment, but it seems to basically just be a step to shut them up definitively.
Let them get their hopes up for half a second if it'll get swatted back down hard.
Purely going by context, it sounds like it would be Beard claiming that he wasn't given an appropriate amount of time to form a proper argument (hence giving him extra time even when he's demonstrated that he's wasting it). So all of this revolves around time.
This case has done more damage to Vic's reputation than the people he's against literally ever could have.
The only reason anybody would want him to win this case anymore would be to punish his victims for speaking out. It can't salvage his reputation, it's just about hurting people now.
The only reason anybody would want him to win this case anymore would be to punish his victims for speaking out. It can't salvage his reputation, it's just about hurting people now.
I mean sure. I just rather see the harassment of people on Twitter die down a bit more and I'm sure this has only served to re-energize it
That's fair.
Is there actually a huge feeling of vindication from Vic stans on Twitter? There's something fundamentally absurd about that if so. This delay is still just a delay of the inevitable at this point. Vic's side hasn't demonstrated a single thing that they were supposed to, has inadvertently made their client and themselves look worse, and has actually faced a defense who has taken this seriously and been thorough.
It's a little like bragging because you didn't get double perfected, you managed to get a hit in when the other player put down the controller for a second so they could scratch their nose. It's such an insubstantial victory that it just highlights what a loser you are if you consider it to be your great comeuppance.
Tbf, he can't do anything except try to win now. The TCPA filings mean that even if Vic was the drop his case the Judge would still rule on whether this is a SLAPP case, in which case Vic would still need to pay the defendants legal fees and whatever sanctions are added on top. It doesn't really matter whether he wants to win or not now.
But yes, filing this case at all was a massive mistake. One which multiple lawyers warned Vic about before he gave in and hired the grifters that BFL recommended.
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They take whatever win they can get sadly 🙄🙄🙄 but yeah it's been a lot of people forgetting all of law twitter basically said this would happen and rubbing it in their faces lmao
Vic literally said in his depo he isn't paying legal fees. Where else would the money be coming from?
The GFM was opened by Screech. Vic wasn't involved at all.
If Vic isn't paying Percy, then Screech must be.
If there is one thing Judges hate, it's being roped into discovery disputes.
People (especially on Vic's side) shouldn't be reading into the continuance; unless the Judge is an asshole/bad mood or the attorney did something very egregious (Ty's arguments were dumb, but it still boils down to "but I'm actually not ready yet please give extension"), the Judge is likely going to grant it so that's less work and the record is more appeal-proof in terms of procedural posture.
With all that said, I definitely can't see the Judge granting a second continuance unless legit extenuating circumstances occurred (and usually the defense would show professional curtesy to not object)
People (especially on Vic's side) shouldn't be reading into the continuance; unless the Judge is an asshole/bad mood or the attorney did something very egregious (Ty's arguments were dumb, but it still boils down to "but I'm actually not ready yet please give extension"), the Judge is likely going to grant it so that's less work and the record is more appeal-proof in terms of procedural posture.
With all that said, I definitely can't see the Judge granting a second continuance unless legit extenuating circumstances occurred (and usually the defense would show professional curtesy to not object)
I'll liken this to the current Republican base in politics.
When you don't live in a fact-based reality, you can just lie to yourself and re-energize yourself over anything, even when it's imaginary. Don't worry so much about what they feel because even when this case is dismissed, those same Vic supporters will just find some other thing to energize themselves and it's not something you or any of us can control.
The only thing that will matter is that the people being sued will be satisfied when the case is dismissed and we'll all be satisfied when Vic gets nothing from this case except to have his reputation destroyed even further, with no future career prospects, and that he'll just fade away into obscurity eventually. With no more opportunities for voice acting roles and no fandom that comes with it and no invites to conventions, he'll have far fewer opportunities to prey on young girls and women.
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So I was reading through the threadnaught and it seemed that one Vic Idiot yelled at Greg claiming he was "Deadnaming" Percy (he wasn't) and that he was being homophobic for it. Not only that but this Vic Idiot claimed to be gay (he wasn't). Of course when people started calling him out he suddenly vanished without a trace.
...What drives these people to do these things?
...What drives these people to do these things?
Out of all the attempted gotchas at Greg, it goes without saying that was the most bizarre.
How many more times are they gonna delay these things, lmao. This feels way worse than any other delayed release date for video games or anything else I've waited on
If Vic is not a complete idiot, he would have at least insisted that there would be no cost for him before agreeing to that lawsuit.
Things I remember Vic saying about this movie from when he was showing it around at conventions:
He lied to the post office about his filming intentions in order to get permission to film there. He told the guy at the post office that he was a college student working on some piece about the US mail system, and he brought his own box for the sake of continuity, and said he wanted to film this box and basically tell the story of the box going all the way through the mailing process from one person to another. The guy at the post office lit up with delight and started rambling on about the inner workings of their processing procedures, all while Vic is just trying to get these cinematic shots of his box and smiling and nodding along.
That was really his house, really his car, really his license plate, so he had leaned all the way into FMA in his real life.
I do not believe he had permission to use that Alphonse statue, and as I'd heard it told, he basically stole it from Funimation for something like a day to film that last scene.
Hired a guy with a rain machine to do that rain scene. Maybe that's obvious, 'cause otherwise of course how would he have done it.
One of those villains at the end is a composite shot. Envy, I think? It pans up one person's body, and then it's somebody else's face on their body.
The guy who shows up for three seconds as Armstrong is the con chair of San Japan, though San Japan wouldn't exist for another two years.
It's rumored that Aniplex wasn't thrilled that this movie existed. He possibly was trying to get it on the Funimation DVDs as an extra but obviously he didn't have the legal rights to use all those assets to make and distribute it. And yet, it's being sold on DVDs in his fan club shop.
Vic supposedly stole projectors from various other panel rooms that needed projectors in order to show this at some events.
He lied to the post office about his filming intentions in order to get permission to film there. He told the guy at the post office that he was a college student working on some piece about the US mail system, and he brought his own box for the sake of continuity, and said he wanted to film this box and basically tell the story of the box going all the way through the mailing process from one person to another. The guy at the post office lit up with delight and started rambling on about the inner workings of their processing procedures, all while Vic is just trying to get these cinematic shots of his box and smiling and nodding along.
That was really his house, really his car, really his license plate, so he had leaned all the way into FMA in his real life.
I do not believe he had permission to use that Alphonse statue, and as I'd heard it told, he basically stole it from Funimation for something like a day to film that last scene.
Hired a guy with a rain machine to do that rain scene. Maybe that's obvious, 'cause otherwise of course how would he have done it.
One of those villains at the end is a composite shot. Envy, I think? It pans up one person's body, and then it's somebody else's face on their body.
The guy who shows up for three seconds as Armstrong is the con chair of San Japan, though San Japan wouldn't exist for another two years.
It's rumored that Aniplex wasn't thrilled that this movie existed. He possibly was trying to get it on the Funimation DVDs as an extra but obviously he didn't have the legal rights to use all those assets to make and distribute it. And yet, it's being sold on DVDs in his fan club shop.
Vic supposedly stole projectors from various other panel rooms that needed projectors in order to show this at some events.
I think it might be his mom that does. I poked around a little; his website links to the Risembool Rangers website, and the Risembool Rangers' website has a store, and the store manager's e-mail address starts with "rrmatriarch".
Hm, I don't see it on the store after all. I do see these things though:
That and his song "Guilty Beauty Love" from another CD just feel like they're really appropriate names for all the wrong reasons. Actually, the one that's titled "I Have No Words" in French is pretty good too.
So, uh... it was brought to my attention that the person playing Scar... is very likely somebody in blackface...?
We do consider Scar to be black, right?
We do consider Scar to be black, right?
Scar isn't black, they have "brown" skin and clear straight hair, which means he can be asian, arab, hispanic etc...
But to answer your question, that's the inner side of his ear... It doesn't quite match, can you spot it :p ?
No, he's a made up ethnicity. Brown skinned yes, but they have red eyes and white, straight hair. Fairly sure the Ishvalan are meant to be closer to middle eastern ethnicities than sub-Saharan African.
Still, darkening skin on a white actor for it is pretty bad.
Scar isn't black, they have "brown" skin and clear straight hair, which means he can be asian, arab, hispanic etc...
But to answer your question, that's the inner side of his ear... It doesn't quite match, can you spot it :p ?
Fair enough, I never finished watching the series to myself, nor had I read up on the manga author's intention for the character.
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Also, the judge did it in a way that kind of fucks Ty's strategy. His strategy was to get an evidentiary hearing right before the TCPA hearing, get all the evidence blown away by, well, I don't fucking know, standing up in court and waving a magic wand for all I can see, then defeat the TCPA because the defendants have no evidence that Vic is a creepy fuck. There's a million things wrong with that strategy but now the evidentiary motions are due, in writing, a week before the TCPA hearings so that strategy's fucked. You can't blindside someone if they're not going in blind even if you were going to blindside them with bad law.
Judge basically gave Ty a get out of jail free card that was a poison pill. "OK, you want three weeks to read all the stuff you already read? Fine. But you're not going to use your bullshit to make the court complicit in your planned stunt." It's kind of funny to watch a Judge so deftly defuse a lawyer's planned bullshit. What's Ty going to say? "The mean judge wouldn't let us ambush the defense with a legal gish gallop the day of!"
Not only that but I've read that the way the judge arranged it all was basically the judge Crossing all the t's and dotting all the I's in order to make sure that Ty asking for this continuance and his motions couldn't be used for an appeal later
you could just watch a dude fellate himself and it'd be the same thing
You would dare suggest nearly 7.5K posts into this thread that Vic has even a shred of idea as to how law works?
I believe Arakawa mentioned in interviews that the Ishvalans oppression is meant to mirror the oppression of Ainu by the Japanese.