That's what happens when you're a clown grifter that literally learned what a deposition was for the case
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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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That's what happens when you're a clown grifter that literally learned what a deposition was for the case
The whole thing about actual malice is so hilarious to me, like what did they think they were going to do there
Imagining some of the other smooth moves they probably would have wanted to pull during that farce
Ty Beardlaw: so if you think vic committed a crime, would you support him going to a trial with a jury of his peers
Ron: uh, yeah, I guess so
Ty Beardlaw: so what you're saying is that your goal was to commit an act of peerjury
I'm glad that two former convention staff members from Tekko chose to given written testimony regarding Vic's actions at Tekko which lines up with other accounts of what Vic had done at conventions.
Jeeze, WTF.... Vic went missing numerous times at Tekko 2007 and at one point, he was caught with three underage girls and a staff member of Tekko that year in a court affadavit attached to this recent court filing believed Vic was "high-risk" and that his behavior was "suspicious":
Holy shit.
I mean, holy shit.
I don't know if you're talking about this or just the tweets thing, but speaking of actual malice...
love this attempt to get Ron to agree that he specifically felt "malice", that exact word, as if he's ingeniously catching him in a trap that'll clinch it for them
only for Ron to not even agree to that much
I agree with everything except maybe the last part. I'm not sure if they are still friends considering they aren't Facebook friends or mutually follow each other on Twitter. But maybe I should take that with a grain of salt. You're definitely right, Chuck has not been a negative topic of discussion with Kick Vic. I'm really quite relieved because Chuck is someone I admire.
From what I can gather from the interactions I've had with Chuck, he believes in redemption and mediating. Seeing both perspectives. It's naive because I think at some point you do need to pick a side in something like this but I think his heart is in the right place.
He follows Vic, Marz Gurl, Doucette and Nick (I know ugh on the latter) on Twitter. I'm certain it's to know and understand both sides.
It's also fair to give him the benefit of the doubt. Much like Vic's ex fiancée and maybe others close to Vic, I highly doubt he was aware of even half of this stuff Vic has disclosed in his deposition.
Not quite; this is just him continuing their shared sarcastic joke that Nick totally is ruining it for them even though (in their minds) it's going well.
as always, it's only funny because it's actually true and they're still unable to see it
To be clear that's exactly what I was thinking of; I haven't checked in a bit but I think this was where they went right after asking Ron about his tweet
It's like, remember during the height of Gamergate where you'd run into a flood of misogynistic idiots who were constantly saying dumb stuff like "if we were Muslims you'd be on our side", and you'd wonder how someone that stupid could survive in real life?
Then you see Ty Beard and you realize that not only are those people the exact same in real life, but it's still a mystery who is tying their shoes for them.
The facebook Jamie Marchi are fan accounts.
Chuck and Jamie follow each other on twitter.
Nobody knew the horrible extent of Vic's past wrong doings when this blew up.
I think most of us assumed he was just being a creep hitting on younger girls to flatter his ego.
It's evident today that we are long past that.
holy shit is this really the first page?It's on official record that Vic does NOT think kissing underage people is creepy!!!
What's incredible is this exact argument was used by Vic stans with no legal background whatsoever on Twitter; not only does it show that Beard doesn't actually understand law, it brings up the question of whether him or internet trolls are responsible for the misinterpretation he has.
That is the first page. The picture, the text, and the footnote, all of it.
Thank you for the clarification.
Yeah, definitely. Everyday I'm all the more disgusted with Vic. I only bring up the possibility Chuck wasn't aware because people are questioning him here.
Sorry, not sure why I didn't see it. Even more amazing!
New conVic strategy I'm seeing is that it's still defemation even if its true because in the Depo said she wasn't going to "sweep it under the rug" anymore. Thus proving malice (I guess?)
Not seeming to realize you can't defame with accurate statements.
Not seeming to realize you can't defame with accurate statements.
Also the continued inability of VicStans to understand the definition between "malice" and the legal term "actual malice", even after it's been described to them, in detail, repeatedly.
Yeah that's why I add the "I guess?". I really don't get why it's so hard for them. Except of course it isn't about Vic but instead it's about uppity women.
...So, the strategy you're seeing is explicitly from people who have accepted that Vic is probably a sex predator but still want him to be able to win somehow?
Yeah, in suing a couple of people who were revealing his actions they've brought far more and worse allegations into the public view and in a way that prevents them being sued. No matter which way you look at it this lawsuits was the worst possible idea.
wow
what a powerful letter
I hope she can find solace in the wake of his gaslighting and abuse
Powerful indeed. It's awful she's been through all this but I'm happy for Michele. She is free of his abuse finally.
Vic is quite the gaslighting abuser. Even in court he lies about things he must know the lawyer is aware of. For example, lying about not knowing Discord, lying about not holding a rumors panel and more. If anything I've enjoyed about watching his deposition, it's that no one thinks he's cute. His charm doesn't work in this setting. He's finally being put in his place. And it will be his own doing because he thought he was invincible, so invincible in fact he knows nothing about his own case and hired the most moronic lawyer to handle it all.
It's illuminating when you see these people who have gotten away with shit for ages because of things like power, influence and charm that aren't really related to their crimes. Once you take those advantages away, it becomes clear that they aren't amazing, manipulative masterminds - they're usually pretty stupid people who have been coasting.
I did my part and reported the campaign a week or two back. I wonder if they've gotten a lot of complaints about it, and this lawsuit given ammo against it.
It is in general just 579 pages of holy fuck.
Just spend an hour scrolling through it, and it is just insane seeing it all lined up so clearly. How he never ended up in a courtroom before putting this case up himself is mind blowing. It just goes on and on about how he was known for his behaviour since more than a decade ago, and how cons would have one or two people following him at all times etc.
Would at least recommend going through the affidavits starting at page 294.
Looking at VicStan's reactions is just mega super duper ultra mind blowing after this is out. Here is 579 pages of "How much of a POS is R. Broly really? Well... let's take a trip" and they are yelling about some minor inconsistency in a deposition. You would have to go through mental gymnastics on an Olympic level to think ANY of this could even remotely end up looking good for Vic.
I have zero sympathy for the fleeced.
The mental gymnastics of the VicStans prove that they don't actually care one way or another about his behaviour, or whether the allegations are true or not, they just want to be right at any cost.
Once Vic loses they will move on to the next Twitter anti-SJW cause célèbre and happily deny any involvement or opinion on "that Vic thing".
This is one thing that, for me, proves that many of the people who "stand with Vic" don't give a shit about the truth. This is something that many people who were into anime (regardless of how they felt about dubbing) knew about since his popularity as a voice actor blew up, and I've known people personally who used to go on about how "creepy" he was; yet all of a sudden, these "accusations" have "come out of nowhere" just to "ruin a good man's life". For some reason, a lot of people became really fixated on his role as Broly and tried to paint the accusations as trying to ruin his success.
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That's the alt-right and alt-right adjacent way. Shroud everything in such a thick layer of irony that you're never wrong if things go south.
Reading through Mike Dunford's breakdown of the latest TCPA filing and I love the way he breaks these down. He isn't afraid to point out issues in the defence's filings as well (although obv there are far fewer than the Plaintiff's because unlike Vic they hired real lawyers.)
These court filings are filled with the most heartbreaking accounts of utter predatory malevolence. This man belongs behind bars for the literal crimes he's committed.
Also, fuck this Chuck Huber guy for his repulsive 'assistance' to sexual assault victims that came in the form of outright dismissal of their accounts and lies regarding the effects of women who speak up. What a filthy cretin.
Also, fuck this Chuck Huber guy for his repulsive 'assistance' to sexual assault victims that came in the form of outright dismissal of their accounts and lies regarding the effects of women who speak up. What a filthy cretin.
I think the most infuriating thing in all of this is that in the end, this is a civil lawsuit brought by the perpetrator. So the worst case scenario is monetary damage. On the other hand this is exposing a *LOT* of information.
I am just gonna lean back and watch this unfold, and then hoping for things to unfold afterwards with all the stuff that is now coming to light.
Dumbfounded at people on Twitter trying to defend Vic even harder now.
Also, I want to report the GFM myself as well upon seeing it's rising back up which is terrifying
Also, I want to report the GFM myself as well upon seeing it's rising back up which is terrifying
On the positive side you have 50+ lawyers that are absolutely sure that this will not end well for Vic. So all that money is either gonna be completely eaten up by Beard-man, leaving Vic to pay damages all by himself. Or it will go to damages for the defendants.