Woof. Even if it's requested, one of you is a legal adult. One of you has the legal and ethical imperative to decline.
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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
- Thread starter Sibersk Esto
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Woof. Even if it's requested, one of you is a legal adult. One of you has the legal and ethical imperative to decline.
I feel like this had to have been coordinated with Arakawa, or whoever decided on the original anime's direction to a certain degree, considering where the Conqueror of Shamballa movie went.
lol at the objection
there's no way to ask that question and avoid that implication
I figured out a long time ago... the reason why some horrible people don't jump for incredibly easy and obvious opportunities to prove their innocence is because... brace yourself for it... they're guilty as sin. They can't see the innocent path ahead of them because they're not on the innocent path. That's why you (as an innocent observer) can facepalm so hard when you see someone miss something so obvious. Because it's painfully obvious to you (innocent), while it's not at all obvious to them (guilty).
Essentially, Vic can't deny that the "Fuhrer" thing was about anything except Hitler, because it was 100% about Hitler for Vic.
If "Fuhrer" was really ever about King Bradley for Vic, then that's probably where his mind would have gone, trying to explain anime to the court (despite the question specifically asking about the real world). But it has always meant "Hitler" to Vic, and he approves of that, so when he was confronted with it, he froze like a deer caught in headlights.
Also, regarding innocence, note how Vic Bologna, that paragon of Christianity, put his hands on a Bible and swore to God, and then said that he doesn't give a shit about his fans losing their money and getting swindled by a con-man. But I'm sure Vic's God-loving fans are still going to convince themselves that Vic loves them and that he's not just trying to kiss them while their parents aren't looking.
In my mind, I picture Vic just having been blissfully unaware of the full extent of the con and the futility of this case, only to have a rude wake up call in court.
Honestly, I was just thinking a moment ago about how the real life Fuhrer was a guy who paid lip service to Germany's Christians while plotting to instead supplant Christianity with a cult worshipping himself.
Looks like there may be some P E R J U R Y in that tweet thread.
Did they ever say anything different than that, regardless of what's actually happening?
That's not even the worst part of the the two tweets.
"So she had this horrible experience, then a second situation, she agreed to come to my room briefly. INow I wonder why she would do that?"
Does that read as a subtle "she was asking for it" to anyone else?
True. I swear I could hear a greasy ass smile appear on his face when I read that.
Bad doesn't even begin to describe it! Even during the deposition Vic said he didn't prepare for it. Maaann I hope they get a hold of Screech for his deposition!
The worst thing about the Fuhrer stuff is that the "as in Adolf Hitler?" parallel is brought up by his own lawyer. Nice going, guy.
Anyway, this deposition isn't going to lead to perjury charges, and (even with the saucy footnote about management doctrine in Minnesota) it's vanishingly unlikely that this leads to any consequences for Nick. But if there was somehow any doubt that Vic had anything resembling a case, that doubt is gone. The question is only how badly he gets hit when it's all over. Deposing Rekieta is entirely unnecessary to getting the case dismissed, but it could go a long way to establishing why Vic should get hit by crippling punitive sanctions because his legal fees are being financed by other people.
Anyway, this deposition isn't going to lead to perjury charges, and (even with the saucy footnote about management doctrine in Minnesota) it's vanishingly unlikely that this leads to any consequences for Nick. But if there was somehow any doubt that Vic had anything resembling a case, that doubt is gone. The question is only how badly he gets hit when it's all over. Deposing Rekieta is entirely unnecessary to getting the case dismissed, but it could go a long way to establishing why Vic should get hit by crippling punitive sanctions because his legal fees are being financed by other people.
I did my part, although who knows how seriously they'll take it. For the record, I provided a link to today's motion.
He really does keep throwing blackface Screech under the bus, "don't know him, didn't authorize him, didn't even know how much money he made with that campaign". So much for Screech being a close friend of Vic, and how are there idiots still falling for this shit.
Also just want to say how much I love Lemoine saying to Vic that he is a unicorn, and Beard being so distraught by it that he has to ask for a break.
Ah, yeah, good to keep in mind that the original FMA movie/anime did do the weird Nazi Germany alternate world thing.
I wouldn't say it's closer to that as much as it's like the similarly horrible dismissal of abuse. "She stayed/came back after, so he couldn't have actually been abusive", etc.
implying "she was asking for it" would, well, be admitting he did something, so it's a slightly different brand of gross instead
Vic + the defendants did depositions. Deadline for filing to dismiss lawsuit (essentially) is in a week or so; Funimation has already done that. Thing from today is defendants trying to see if they can request to depose Nick still. Also includes a large portion of Vic's deposition, which basically just repeatedly confirms that he has no real way to argue that the defendants distinctly hurt his reputation in any major way, for multiple reasons.
Sounds like Funimation's hearing to see if they get the case against them dismissed is in a month.
Spend some time on PACER (or the free copy). You'll see worse. This is actually somewhat mild. Some judges can also get spicy.
The original draft offered to depo him at home via teleconference if I'm not mistaken. They're asking to move it to a local court because they assume he'll just refuse to comply at home.
Lol right? Surely the minimum preparation at least would be "Don't fucking try to defend, or even admit what you did." Trying to sue someone for defamation because "They told people about a thing I did, but it sounded worse when they said it" isn't really a thing...
Sorry if it was already posted but this page by page break down of Vic's deposition by Mike Dunford is very good. (I've embedded from a few tweets in because as he self described he "Boomered it" and accidentally replied to the wrong tweet and broke the thread.)
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It's in the replies by Dominique Skye. I'll try to find it again later but I'm at work right now.
Edit: Found it
Edit: Found it
I think my IQ went down a few points while reading the Risembool Rangers explanation.
I'm starting to think that this is some findom shit at this point.
Percy Beard: incredibly brilliant tactician and eidetiker lawyer, everyone.
Also:
HE'S NOT A CHRISTIANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnnPercy Beard: incredibly brilliant tactician and eidetiker lawyer, everyone.
Also:
HE'S NOT A CHRISTIANNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNnnnnnn
I legitimately cannot understand how anyone can make that claim about Mignogna with a straight face.
