It's feels like a lifetime ago when the original accusations came out. I never saw going from that to Vic embarrassing himself in court.
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Vic Mignogna Lawsuit |OT| Hold My Beard (Update: Appeal lost, Mignogna must pay attorney fees to defendants)
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Kuroneko got robbed.
I didn't even like the show (cause it's bad) and it still makes me mad.
TSSZNews is certainly not beloved in the Sonic community as far as I remember.
They're about a step or two removed from a clickbait mill.
It's possible I have some of it wrong, either way no one in the suit is legally an employee of Funimation so it's not like they can get anywhere from that route either *shrugs*
(This all being said we really need to change the law and require companies to include independent contractors that they have a long term relationship with, employees from a legal standpoint, but it is what it is. some reference for this would be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8UQ4O7UiDs aka john oliver and WWE and how they abuse independent contractors.)
If this court case had proceeded like any normal court case it'd be a pretty boring thing to follow, and this thread would be much smaller (but would spike up again when the court filings are heard etc.). However with both Vic's lawyers and stans constantly shooting themselves in the foot (a joke of a lawsuit, the Greg Doucette thing) it's been a never-ending stream of stupidity.
Well shit, no wonder he was so invested with his ''innocent until proven guilty'' stuff.
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And that was the same guy who was in this thread? Fucking hell.....
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how does shit like this even get found out lmao
and yeah, that explains why he was playing devil's advocate for vic
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I swear the difference between malice and Actual Malice will be the last thing my brain remembers when i die because I have read that explanation so many times this last month lol.
go to law school and you can live that experience every day xd
I've actually thought about it because I did enjoy learning law in college and naturally am drawn to researching things like it.
that being said one of the areas I like is copyright law and that is still stupid and mostly not properly defined :P
Lmao based on those emails it seems like beard has less understanding of civil procedure than a first year associate
Refer to the creep as "PERVic".
Its equally as unoriginal but should bug them
Going by replies from lawyers, that bit's actually not much of a problem.
But it sure does read like Beard has no idea what he's talking about, as always, so that's... good? I really do want to know how the eventual hearing goes.
wow, i never would have guessed that there the people who sent an empty folder titled "risembool rangers" as part of their evidence might have not been sending all of the evidence
Yes quite shocking! I mean obviously the empty folder is full of evidence!.......>_>
In a way, it kind of is. Must've been some pretty incriminating stuff in there.
Honestly, I just think it's an absurd mental image that they had a folder full of stuff related to the Risembool Rangers, decided "this is going to make us look really bad, better not", and so they deleted everything in the folder and sent the folder itself.
Like, even if you're cherrypicking and destroying evidence and shit, why didn't they just not send the folder. Who is making you do that.
Like, even if you're cherrypicking and destroying evidence and shit, why didn't they just not send the folder. Who is making you do that.
Very true. If he is as innocent as he is claiming, he should have nothing to hide.
Rember when they were sending out those letters to not destroy anything. How the ConVics were all like "Yeah you can't trust them... Get them!" and screencaping everything so they could show the evidence when the time came.
Guess they were looking at the wrong people. Though I'm sure the ConVics will explain to us how it's different.
Guess they were looking at the wrong people. Though I'm sure the ConVics will explain to us how it's different.
Neutrality, for when you're too chickenshit to take an actual stance!
What the Jesus riding a unicorn up his own ass while the unicorn is wondering why he wasn't on Noah's arc but the fucking snake was fuck.
Edit: seriously I am DONE with this "let the courts decide" bullshit.
"You" are not a lawyer. Or a judge. Or any of that.
You are you. Make a fucking decision on what you think! If you magically end up on a jury then fucking recuse yourself if you already have one.
Gulity till proven innocent does not apply to the public. Hell when I was 14 I thought OJ Simpson was innocent. That didn't matter to the trial.
Edit: seriously I am DONE with this "let the courts decide" bullshit.
"You" are not a lawyer. Or a judge. Or any of that.
You are you. Make a fucking decision on what you think! If you magically end up on a jury then fucking recuse yourself if you already have one.
Gulity till proven innocent does not apply to the public. Hell when I was 14 I thought OJ Simpson was innocent. That didn't matter to the trial.
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Yep. Talking about stuff with Doug TenNapel of all people.
Alright, on tonight's episode we're here to talk about the ongoing Vic Mignogna lawsuit. Our guests tonight are Orson Scott Card, Jared Fogle, David Duke, and the guy who started saying "literally" to mean "figuratively".
There are times when neutrality is a perfectly acceptable choice. This is not one of those times. Like what the fuck is wrong with these people?!
The actual funniest thing about this motion is that it's trying to quash something that doesn't exist. It's incredibly premature, though I wasn't sure why until I read its contents.
Basically, Funimation's filing of the TCPA motion automatically halts all discovery in the case. Because of this, nobody can request any new documents or depositions at this time. If they want new stuff, they need to get the court's permission, which, if all parties don't agree, will require filing a motion.
Rial and Toye's lawyers are aware of this. That's why they didn't send a subpoena to Nick Rekieta. Instead, they sent a Notice of Intent, declaring that they're planning on asking for this discovery, but that they can't until they get the permission of the court. At this time, there is nothing formally requiring Nick Rekieta to appear for a deposition. The draft subpoena they sent out is unsigned and has sections for the judge to fill in if he grants them permission to ask for discovery.
Vic's lawyers don't appear to grasp that this is what's going on, and have therefore filed a motion to take down a notice that has no legal force whatsoever. When the judge hears this, he will be very confused.
I appreciate that this motion is a better structured piece of legal writing than their last discovery motion (in how it presents its exhibits), but its legal reasoning is even worse.
Basically:
Even funnier is that, if you read the emails, Ron and Monica's lawyer tried to explain this to Beard and he filed the motion anyway lmao
Pretty sure he's too busy drinking his own bathwater.i wonder if Vic is at this stage yet?
It really is all laid out quite clearly in their own motion to quash. All they had to do was listen.
I'm sure Beard was very proud of that last line.
Sometimes (well, every time) I just hate these "if someone has not been judged guilty in the courtroom for a crime, it didn't happen/no one should act upon the accusations" people. It doesn't take into account that not all of these things are (serious enough) crimes that anyone would go to court over them, that even if they are crimes they can be hard to prove (beyond reasonable doubt), that often victims don't want to prolong the whole shebang by taking it to court but just want to move on in their life (or don't feel SO victimized that they'd go to court), or even that the courtroom isn't infallible. Plenty of guilty parties have not been judged guilty because of a multitude of reasons (biased judges who don't want to judge "good men" just for these few women they harassed, not enough (condemning) evidence, some victim/witness dropping out because of harassment from deranged fans or some such).
In Vic's case it's just doubly idiotic because there IS photo evidence and even the man himself admitted to it. Even if there wasn't, decades worth of accusations from women & young girls plus THE FACT that he has been banned from some conventions due to this exact kidn of behaviour should say that there is quite a lot of of credibility to the accusations and that they aren't just some recent conspiracy.
In Vic's case it's just doubly idiotic because there IS photo evidence and even the man himself admitted to it. Even if there wasn't, decades worth of accusations from women & young girls plus THE FACT that he has been banned from some conventions due to this exact kidn of behaviour should say that there is quite a lot of of credibility to the accusations and that they aren't just some recent conspiracy.
A vic stan in my friend's discord said all the women are lying and vic is innocent cuz he cried.....
People easily (on purpuse) forget. This is not a criminal act usually. There is a giant gap creeps have before it gets criminal. before that It's an HR and PR issue. If you are being a creep at work or while representing your work. You will be fucking fired. How the fuck hard is that. You don't have to be arrested to be let go for making other people feel uncomfortable.
Vic should start selling his bathwater to his stans. I'm sure they'd buy it.