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VGTech: Call of Duty Black Ops Cold War PS5 vs Xbox Series X|S Frame Rate Comparison
- Thread starter chandoog
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Jesus christ.
The effort some of you are putting into creating a certain narrative 3 days into a generation looking at cross gen games dropping 3 frames is fucking astounding.
The effort some of you are putting into creating a certain narrative 3 days into a generation looking at cross gen games dropping 3 frames is fucking astounding.
In my experience, only the core enthusiasts care about a few dropped frames, a variance in pixels, a faster SSD, a faster GPU, etc. By extension, only enthusiasts care about the narratives that get created in gaming circles.
If my friends want to know about gaming stuff, they usually ask me about it because they know I'm into it. They play games but they aren't into gaming the same way I am. They don't visit forums, follow gaming news on Twitter, or listen to gaming podcasts, like I do. I don't even tell them where I get my info, they just know that I'm into this stuff XD
It's pretty entertaining, I remember the good ole days where we could tell which version was better with our own eyes.
The need for there to be a "winner" will never go away
The tools are there, they are just new, whereas the ps5's are an extension of the tools they already use.
In multimillion $ multiplatform development there are a lot of systems what will have been hardwired over the last 7 years , so it's going to take a bit of time it seems.
These threads always summon the cringiest posts. The concern trolling is strong with this one.
We're at the very beginning of the gen. It's still way too early to judge which console will end up having an advantage. And even then who fucking cares?
5 dropped frames out of 27082 vs 2. If we're going to be measuring differences in single digit dropped frames out of 10000s - it's going to be a slow gen for DF...
Care to quantify this a bit?
GDK has been available for a minimum of 12 months to date (that I know of, could have been longer), which is more than many consoles got in the past before launch. Not saying PS5 couldn't have been much earlier than that (honestly don't know) but 'pretty late' is not how I'd describe SDK availability for XBox this gen.
In terms of real world performance, nobody will notice. Much like the load times that we've seen in multiplat games on both consoles, I doubt anyone will notice the difference in real life. I am curious, though, what changes will transpire, if any, as we get further into the generation. But as it currently stands, it's a wash between the 2 consoles.
XSX seems to be missing smoke effects on gun barrels.
Since alpha effects are mem bandwidth heavy, may be the split mem pool on XSX is causing issues?
We know DX12 performs well on AMD HW so l find it hard to believe the reason Xbox isn't performing better at 120fps is because of API/SDK maturity.
We've been told time and time again that performance will be close. Don't think we should be surprised either way.
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Yeah, remember the giant threads and media articles about the stupid and useless PR from Ubisoft about Valhalla's PS5 version being F4K and the Xbox version is Tru4K
I don't see articles about how PS5 is outperforming the Series X, I wonder why?
Hopefully no more drama
I have tons of bookmarks of those posts but I won't post them. Turns out the people who designed the system knew what they were talking about. Lol
Looks like the comparison vids are going to be pretty boring this gen, which for us consumers is for the better. I have zero intention to ever buy an xbox but both machines are awesome this time. Last gen xbox was a joke(atleast to start) so this time around there is no clear loser in hardware. Great news for gamers. Bad news for warriors lol
And now the ridiculous excuse of the development kit being late.
If it was noticeable more powerfull like people were saying here it will outperform ps5 in every game. But it is not what we are getting.
The second big next-gen AAA title that runs slightly better on the PS5. What a turn of events.
People need to stop doubting jschreier, Matt, the guys at Digital Foundry and you know....actual developers. Especially over random or unestablished "insiders", social media pundits and/or marketing slogans/phrases.
Side note, I'll pick this up on sale as I definitely want to test the DualSense implementation and the campaign actually looks fun and pretty graphically impressive.
It takes up 133 GB on PS5 and 136 GB on Series X.
Edit: Seems like with the latest updates it uses up 147.4 GB on PS5 and 187.9 GB on Series X. Not sure why it's taking up an extra 40 GB on Series X. Maybe the Series S textures/assets are included in the file or something.
People need to stop doubting jschreier, Matt, the guys at Digital Foundry and you know....actual developers. Especially over random or unestablished "insiders", social media pundits and/or marketing slogans/phrases.
Side note, I'll pick this up on sale as I definitely want to test the DualSense implementation and the campaign actually looks fun and pretty graphically impressive.
It takes up 133 GB on PS5 and 136 GB on Series X.
Edit: Seems like with the latest updates it uses up 147.4 GB on PS5 and 187.9 GB on Series X. Not sure why it's taking up an extra 40 GB on Series X. Maybe the Series S textures/assets are included in the file or something.
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Yup I am eating crow for an entire month now, I didn't beleive to that 120hz hype.
Warriors be sad.
Of course the question now is - Why didn't they make it look better at 60 :)
I think the only conclusion that can be drawn from these early comparisons is that any talk of PS5 being 'underpowered' is utter nonsense, and there will be no significant performance difference between the two consoles. Beyond that, I'm sure both consoles will produce amazing results in the years to come as devs get better at using them.
New gen launch games are always a little rough around the edges but I think CoD looks to be the most polished that I've seen this time out? Aside from like Yakuza.
And I thought that CoD had a 120fps option on Series S. They advertise like it does. Weird. Performance looks solid across the board, might jump in on this one. Loved BO4 but didn't bother with MW.
And I thought that CoD had a 120fps option on Series S. They advertise like it does. Weird. Performance looks solid across the board, might jump in on this one. Loved BO4 but didn't bother with MW.
I guess that's why Sony has so much content for launch and also has an insane 2021 lineup. I expect MS to have a really good holiday 2021 and beyond though.
No, Xbox has lots of customization aswell and one of those are dedicated audio and decompression HW.
VRR combined with high frame rate on consoles is secretly the best next gen feature, just no one realizes it cause either their console or TV doesn't support it.
Absolutely correct. They will go where their friends are, or what games look interesting. I imagine next to none of them will worry about 120fps.
You won't see tearing but you will still notice the fluctuations right?
I'd argue Sony should take their sweet time with VRR, there seems to all sorts of issues with it on certain TV models. Minor or not.
Doesn't their flagship gaming TV (X90H) have not even support VRR yet? They could be waiting for that.
The devkits were late due to Microsoft waiting for AMD to finish full RDNA2 and according to MS Xbox are now the only console to support full RDNA2.
Yep, it's weird. Having said that I don't expect the difference to ever get big as both consoles are beasts, but Xbox should be the slightly better performing hardware in the future.
Wait, it doesn't? Does that mean the PSVR games that support 120 fps don't work on the PS5?
Pretty funny that the big software company has the best hardware and the big hardware company has the best software.
Holy fuck both consoles tearing this game a new arsehole :)
Great to see them both performing so well, whatever platform is your preference be happy :)
Great to see them both performing so well, whatever platform is your preference be happy :)
I think it's more PS5 tools are an improvement and iteration on PS4 which means a lot of familiarity. MS is going with GameCore to align PC and Console development which will pay dividends later by making PC to console incredibly easy but as it stands now they are effectively completely new tools.
But you must be able to tell if a game drops down from say 60 to 30. The motion will just be more jagged?
Yep and as many choices this generation, there is no definite right or wrong imo. Both had reasons to do what they've done and I am still excited about both companies hitting it out of the park as they did. I can't remember the last time a new gen was so exciting to me due to both consoles potential.