They're also only using 2 lanes as is the expansion slot, so you're going to need something with twice the speed to match the internal drive.
From what I understand they actually pulled it from an xbox so we really shouldn't jump to conclusions yet.
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[VGC] Xbox Series X/S can use standard SSDs in the expansion card slot, it’s claimed
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They're also only using 2 lanes as is the expansion slot, so you're going to need something with twice the speed to match the internal drive.
From what I understand they actually pulled it from an xbox so we really shouldn't jump to conclusions yet.
Read to me that they used the same model, but not an exact one extracted from an Xbox itself. Could be a lost in translation thing though
He was specifically using a SN530 m.2 2230 PCIe 4.0 x2, unless I'm wrong this variant can only be found in the xbox. If you try that buy that drive by itself you'll get a PCIe 3.0 x4 version.
It's PCIe 4.0 x2.
Still, can do up to 4GB/s but at the time, no drives could do it on 4.0 x2 that didn't cost an arm and leg.
It'll be a thing people can use, just not something Microsoft are willing to build and support.
truth, their SSDs aren't bad though but I will never touch a HDD from them ever.
Ive been absolutely praying for this solution. Kinda reminds me when I bought a newer 360 from my launch model, and all you had to do was take apart the OG external drive case And slide the SATA drive into the new models bay and it worked fine.
Does the OS recognize it to play SS/SX optimized games though?
*NVM looks like it counts as storage expansion so it should work I'm assuming lol
Xbox should simply allow other drives being used and let manufacturer make enclosures.
No we don't know that and if there is a contract, then it must be about external drives only. Internal Xbox console already use Western Digital from time to time.
The SN530 they tested is the internal drive. The one you linked is not the same despite the identical model number, it is PCIe 3.0 vs the PCIe 4.0 x2 internal drive.
Wouldn't be surprised if an adapter started showing up, similar to something like the SD2Vita. The prices on MS' expansion card is simply ridiculously high tbh.
PCIe Gen3 x4 throughput is nearly equivalent to PCIe Gen4 x2. The article specifically mentions getting a CH SN530 model (I'm not sure what the CH means) but I do know the Xbox Series X/S SN530 M.2 2230 SSD has a custom ASIC that enables PCIe 4.0 (more specifically PCIe Gen4 x2).
The xbox only supports 2 lanes, a 3.0 x4 drive would have its speeds cut in half, it is not equivalent in this case.
The hard drive cost is what keeps me from getting a series s (as I have gamepass on PC). I just don't feel like there's enough space on that thing - especially later in the generation. Paying $200 for an upgrade feels like a trap. If people can get off the shelf gen3 drives working I'd seriously consider it.
The way it's protruding out of the back looks janky af, and high chance of breakage every time you clean dust.
People need to read the article. Only an M.2 drive extracted from inside a series console works. Other M.2 drives don't work which indicate a unique firmware of some sort.
Uh? With AliExpress global shipping I get my stuff in about 3 weeks in Canada
This is great news. Once there's a couple different brands and they've been tested a bunch I'll definitely consider grabbing one but not before then, cause I wouldn't want to short something because of a bad adaptor.
I don't think there's anything unique about the SSD's firmware. It's quite likely that drives at merely whitelisted at an OS level. MS have already said that there will be other SSD expansion solutions in the future apart from the current Seagate offering, including different form factors. I expect that will open up the available options using adapters such as that described in the article.
Is a start. But don't forget this guy tried some swaps.
Even MVG commented, something about a custom ASIC, whatever that means.
Even MVG commented, something about a custom ASIC, whatever that means.
This reminds me a lot of the old 360 HDDs. I remember someone found the same method and you could easily make your own HDDs instead of buying the upcharged ones (Back when they didn't have external HDD support).
While this isn't as open as that it does definitely keep the door open for more Xbox SSD suppliers which MS was saying would happen.
While this isn't as open as that it does definitely keep the door open for more Xbox SSD suppliers which MS was saying would happen.
I haven't had the best of luck. Last time i ordered something it got lost in a blackhole for 7 months before mysteriously showing up
What's really interesting is that a Series X SSD transplant will only work on another Series X, and doesn't work on a Series S.
I may be mis-remembering (or maybe it got easier down the line, it's probably this) - but with x360 hard drive replacement IIRC a) it had to be one of a few Western Digital models only, and b) you had to do some DOS firmware flashing?/hackery to get some encryption keyfile from an original drive in to the correct sectors on the replacement.
I recall it got simplified later on or at the very least wasn't much of a hassle. Since I remember a lot of people started offering bigger HDDs for a cheaper price than MS originally pretty quick.
It wasn't too bad after a while. You just downloaded a thing and clicked a button to flash the drive, then put the drive in the 3rd party enclosure.
Are you going to get a m.2 2280 or m.2 2242 (like the Series X ssd)?