What? Forge, coop, firefight, playlists, countless game modes, ranked has ONE playlist, no spartan rank, no commendations, no lobbies, theater doesnt work, custom games dont work and is missing half the features. No match composer.. Yes it has almost as many maps but is missing everything else. We had like four game modes at launch and even know it's not much better. There are achievements in the game for game modes that still dont exist.
No there arent, that was added a while back. Fair on lack of playlists, but its not like the modes arent there in the game already. They just get rotated in and out.
Is griffball and infection in the game and being rotated out? You know.. only two of the most popular playlists. No it's not. Have you seen multi team? Team doubles? Headhunters? Regicide? Ricochet? Assault?
... Is this 2 thirds of a Halos entire content slate?
Just noticed it's a comment regarding the melee desyc and there is definitely something funky going on there. Something expressed by both pros and casual players for sure. Although I don't think it's a massively big contributor to people quitting the game though. But like you said, everything adds up.
I sort of disagree...regardless of 343's historical trials and tribulations, Infinite is instructive that it had this big, splashy, well-received debut: yeah it was missing a lot of features, but the way it dropped and the baseline quality gave Xbox a LOT of goodwill to rest on.
I don't think you realize how freaking popular those modes were. Personally I find it hard to accept it as well as I quickly get bored of it as well, but there were large groups of people that were almost exclusively playing infection going as far back as Halo 2. And the amounts of hours people would put into Grifball is just stupid.
The popularity of Infection always seemed to be in Custom Games from what I could tell. Was it ever popular in Matchmaking? I only ever played Infection custom games back in Halo 3 and Reach
I get your point that a 1st party game has a higher quality bar to meet, but all I'm saying is that making a game live service doesn't automatically net you those problems. Had they delayed the game even more until they could deliver co-op, Forge, battle royale and 3-month seasons the game would be much better now… but someone chose not to.
Did you ignore the rest of my first post? Forge, coop, firefight, spartan rank, commendations, playlists, game modes, lobbies, theater doesnt work properly, custom games dont wprk properly, ranked has one playlist..
I mean, Forge, coop, firefight are the only real significant pieces of content there I think. Commendations are meh, theater is there and works most of the time, Im not even sure what doesnt work about custom games, and sure id like more ranked stuff but thats pretty minor content. Plus you were arguing it would stay that way for the whole first year, when forge, the most significant piece of content missing, is a couple months away.
Really disagree. Launch Halo 5 was dire. It was a really similar situation to Infinite actually. 4-5 hour campaign with a terrible story, not a lot of modes, no forge, not a lot of maps, etc.
I also remember how the fix of the MCC after 4 years and the delay of 1 year was somehow seen by many as something positive, even though they show how something is not really well managed for the Halo franchise.
Wether you like Halo 5s campaign more than Infinites is a matter of opinion, but I really dont. Halo Infinite gave Halos sandbox a much needed revamp with the equipment and different weapons, plus the AI got a big upgrade between games. Hunters in Halo 5 were already good, but in Infinite they are amazing. Elites, Brutes and Jackals are the best theyve been too. That + the open world made the moment to moment Halo the best its ever been. Sure, I wish it was bigger and had more biomes, but its way better than the underwhelming mess that was Halo 5s campaign. There are only like 3-4 good levels there.
What is meh for you is not meh for everyone else. Coop is meh for me. It's stillissing content. And i didnt say the game would stay like this for a year. I said after a year it will still not have one third of the content compared to halo games. Even with coop and forge being out by then i still stand by what i've said.
I wonder, though I guess we will never know now. I think it is as likely as not that delaying the game for a year would have still ended up with a very similar result.
