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VGC: Guerrilla Games is planning a Horizon Zero Dawn trilogy - co-op, larger scope than HZD1
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I thought the melee attack was stupidly OP when upgraded. You could knock robots big as tanks over with nearly every swing.
I guess I can see that that should be improved, but I didn't use melee enough to make that distinction myself. I think the game was definitely made with melee in mind only as a last resort for defense and at least personally I prefer it that way.
Yup.
Also, melee on Horizon had the same function as melee on shotters
I'm glad the world is going to be bigger; the first game was a good size but I loved it so much I could have happily sunk a lot more hours into it.
A separate Monster Hunter style co-op mode based around the hunters lodge would be perfect, I really hope they go down that route.
A separate Monster Hunter style co-op mode based around the hunters lodge would be perfect, I really hope they go down that route.
The world, especially Frozen Wilds, was just so beautiful bigger is only welcome.
Super OP when upgraded. I never even used to light melee attack, just timed the heavy attack and would dispose of everything.
Not that I disagree, but in fact co-op might be a reason for GG to do that. If you have a - hopefully seperate from main quest - co-op mode, then they can throw in all sorts of weapons that they don't want Alloy to use. Big hammer dude could now hammer stuff as a playable character.
More than anything I want improved interactivity and physics - riding a big dino/Stormbird is not that awesome if you can't burn down trees, stomp huts and rip limbs from other dino mechs. Bonus points if you can fly a bird and joust with Alloy's spear like a knight 🤤
Kinda surprised that the co-op part of the story is getting this much discussion, for me personally the idea that the game world is described as "gigantic" is a bit of worry...
Horizons somewhat compact world while still being diverse in terms of biomes was one of the highlights for me, hope they don't make the world too large like some other open world games to be honest.
Horizons somewhat compact world while still being diverse in terms of biomes was one of the highlights for me, hope they don't make the world too large like some other open world games to be honest.
Not really psyched about co-op because I view Horizon as the same sort of game as Mass Effect for me. I want to explore, I want to investigate, I want to absorb the lore and the story. I don't want to be prodded into ignoring key parts of the world because somebody wants to hurry up and go hunt Thunderjaws.
As people have said, co-op wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back with Dead Space 3, but it still blocked off content that might have been interesting to me.
As people have said, co-op wasn't the straw that broke the camel's back with Dead Space 3, but it still blocked off content that might have been interesting to me.
If co-op is being included I'm almost certain it'll mean the main character will be an avatar/player created and that'll be used.
Because it's second game in the 'Redemption' saga or they made 'Red Dead Redemption' the new name for the franchise instead of just Red Dead.
Yeah is probably gonna be that, i don't see them having co-op in the solo but a monster hunter mode for fighting the robots with your friends.
"Horizon" was a weak name. Could've named it something much more interesting.
I suppose the theme of naming it after solar/lunar events is cool though
I suppose the theme of naming it after solar/lunar events is cool though
He's great in Jurassic Park, In the Mouth of Madness (one of the best Lovecraftian movies I've seen), Event Horizon and Daybreakers. He suits playing weirdos and unhinged loonies.
its important for female reperesentation that she stays the core of this franchise. Alloy is a female platform mascot, which is a big deal.
Guerilla's baby; Horizon & Aloy, even featured in Monster Hunter.
They ought to be inspired from it for co-op/online.
I've said it before in the past, the current 'feel' if Horizon had an MP is via Monster Hunter.
It would be evolution for Horizon adding Multiplayer components.
They ought to be inspired from it for co-op/online.
I've said it before in the past, the current 'feel' if Horizon had an MP is via Monster Hunter.
It would be evolution for Horizon adding Multiplayer components.
I'm not bothered by the potential of co-op, as long as the game overall doesn't suffer. I believe GG can deliver whatever they decide to do.
The world was fairly empty though. They need to add more interesting ways to interact with the world before making it bigger.
Funny, my exact first thought was "they better not change the protagonist" when I read this.
You don't like her, we get it. She's literally my most favorite character in gaming, so I guess this is a matter of opinion.
Depends on how they do it. If you have to always account for another player in your game, then that affects how the game mechanics are designed.
She, um, saved the whole world. Also, how was she bland - she was snarky, had some amazing quotes and has an interesting visual design.
"some" like a legitimate handful. She was entirely forgettable.
The thing about adding co-op is that you can't just plop it into this kind of game seamlessly without making heavy design changes. Monster Hunter works because it's quest based. Minecraft works because it's built with no story. GTA:Online and RDR:Online have multiplayer completely separate from the main game. Soulsborne games have very strict rules for co-op, such as locking you out of going to other areas and ending the session when the host dies or the boss is killed. I'm pretty sure that Ghost Recon game that had co-op had to be built from the ground up for it and had to give the player annoying AI companions if they were playing single player.
If they're going to add co-op, something's gotta give. It's a design limitation, not a technical one.
If they're going to add co-op, something's gotta give. It's a design limitation, not a technical one.
The eternal question
How was HZD not quest based though
You don't have to force design changes - such as a companion in solo play - to make a game work with co-op. Just design the game around 1 player but allow them to play as 2 if they wish, who cares if the game 'breaks' because it wasn't designed with 2 players in mind. Just sort the technical issues needed to have 2 people in the world at once and let them have fun.
Every single player open world game should allow co-op if people wish. It's so much fun, had an absolute blast playing Far Cry 5 with a friend, need more of those experiences please.
Every single player open world game should allow co-op if people wish. It's so much fun, had an absolute blast playing Far Cry 5 with a friend, need more of those experiences please.
I should have specified instance based. HZD is open world, and you passively take on many quests at once AFAIR.
In MH, you start a quest by loading the level, and when you finish the quest you go back to the hub. Like Overcooked or Mario 64. That's what I meant by quest based, not that MH happens to have quests.
So why can't they just have different female protagonists? I can understand keeping Alloy if it's a large story arc, but if representation is the issue other female leads would work too, wouldn't they?
Ugh. I loved Horizon to death but co-op/any sort of forced online component in general is pretty much the last thing I ever wanted to see in a Horizon sequel.
As long as it's 100% optional and the story can still be played entirely offline as a single-player experience, though, that's fine by me.
As long as it's 100% optional and the story can still be played entirely offline as a single-player experience, though, that's fine by me.