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SpankyDoodle

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Oct 25, 2017
6,082
same thing the games industry does when the workload is more than their in-house teams can do in the required time (not necessarily because of a strike), but ship the work out to India to work farms.
Yep. There's there's very little danger for the studios if animators/artists go on strike in America. They just outsource it. It's essentially "you'll work on it and you'll like it or we'll have someone else do it"
 

efr

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Jun 19, 2019
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Movie was bad. Vfx needed a patch and looked bad. Actors got made fun of but got paid. Vfx artists got made fun of and paid.
People make fun of vfx on things for years. The end of the Matrix got made fun of for years because Neo looked fake. Its part of working in the vfx field. You got paid for your time, the movie bombed, the studio closed.

Whats the issue?
 

shaneo632

Weekend Planner
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Oct 29, 2017
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Wrexham, Wales
I don't think people are so much criticising the artists as the obvious visionary/production problems. It's less an issue of talent and more one of poor management/time constraints/cost cutting, likely on the side of the studio.
 

vodalus

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Oct 27, 2017
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CT
So like, somebody comes up with the designs and the the VFX people make them right? They probably didn't just leave it up to the VFX people to decide how they'd look, right?

No. Visual effects artists work as a team with input to create a desired look. Like any art design, it's got to be a collaborative process. Certainly the final product is on the director and the studio - and from all evidence Cats was a shitty rush job. The studio involved, Universal Pictures, is full of garbage human beings. They also employ two that I know of: Rebel Wilson and James Corden.
 

BlackGoku03

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Oct 25, 2017
7,275
Movie was bad. Vfx needed a patch and looked bad. Actors got made fun of but got paid. Vfx artists got made fun of and paid.
People make fun of vfx on things for years. The end of the Matrix got made fun of for years because Neo looked fake. Its part of working in the vfx field. You got paid for your time, the movie bombed, the studio closed.

Whats the issue?
Gotta defend that honor. For some reason.

The VFX studio closing down is due to the studio itself. These companies outbid each other to do work as quickly and cheaply as possible. A studio closing is a natural result of that (and other issues) and happens often. And their little teasing doesn't amount to the reaction I'm seeing. The VFX was glitchy, even after the patch. Is that up for debate?

Reminds me of the Scorsese debate. Everyone rushed to defend the honor of the VFX artists for reasons when I doubt they can name more than two studios offhand (not named WETA or ILM).
 

meowdi gras

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Feb 24, 2018
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It's not the "production" workers who deserve to be raked over the coals for the VFX failures of Cats. It's the designers and the relentlessly-pressuring studio heads that do. Whenever you hear me criticize a movie's VFX, this is what I'm talking about.
 

a916

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Oct 25, 2017
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With so much of movies now relying on VFX, I think it's disgusting how often they're under appreciated and the crunch involved and how often studio go bust. This should. not. be. the. norm.
 

Z-Beat

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
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Cats' VFX were mostly just slapped together/unfinished. Probably could've been fixed with more time but I'm guessing they had a deadline to meet.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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It was pretty mean-spirited given that Cordens and Wilson will keep getting work and VFX workers live in precarity.