Not certain. And imo if they want mass adoption, they need an sku with a disk drive.
I'm more interested in the S as I already have a powerful PC. Would be kinda disappointed if I had to go with the X just to get bluray/BC disc support.
Not certain. And imo if they want mass adoption, they need an sku with a disk drive.
Might be why they are keeping the One S around and in stock, for a cheap bluray player that is also a console. Series S supposedly doesn't do 4k, so why bother having a 4k bluray drive in it?So are we certain this thing won't have a disc drive? Seems weird to go from One S with a 4K bluray drive to a Series S without. I remember 4K bluray + 1080p(ish) gaming being a major selling point of the One S.
I'm sure Xbox Series S will do well. Not sure why some people are crying over existence of this console when there is also Xbox Series X.
One will be ideal for casual and other for those that want power.
Look at Nintendo Switch, not even powerful but people love their games. Xbox Series S will be enough to play 3rd party popular titles and new games on 1080p.
So are we certain this thing won't have a disc drive? Seems weird to go from One S with a 4K bluray drive to a Series S without. I remember 4K bluray + 1080p(ish) gaming being a major selling point of the One S.
Yeah, the names are bad. Cause there's a One X and a One S. Not sure why they couldn't just call the something entirely different. The Series part is kinda lame.
Might be why they are keeping the One S around and in stock, for a cheap bluray player that is also a console. Series S supposedly doesn't do 4k, so why bother having a 4k bluray drive in it?
Might be why they are keeping the One S around and in stock, for a cheap bluray player that is also a console. Series S supposedly doesn't do 4k, so why bother having a 4k bluray drive in it?
It'll probably have the same simple upscaler as the One S? it's pretty damn good tbh.Might be why they are keeping the One S around and in stock, for a cheap bluray player that is also a console. Series S supposedly doesn't do 4k, so why bother having a 4k bluray drive in it?
Yeah I don't get all those talks on power and such since One X can't run next-gen games anyway while Series S can.The Series S plays next-gen games at 1080/1440p and the One X plays last-gen games at 4K/near 4K
It isn't any more complicated than that gamers
The One S *can* do 4k and will output 4k for video playback primarily. Thing of it is no game really goes past 1080p on One S sans for some very select games (DOOM64).The One S doesn't do 4K either and has the drive. Series S should be able to do 4K so long as it has a HDMI 1.4+ port.
Sure. It's an objective thing where if people say the naming isn't an issue, they have to be defensive.1) TF are absolutely stupid measure in general. It gets even more silly when people point out the "power ranking" here.
2) There is no reason to be so defensive about MS' naming scheme. It's awful and confusing. Couple in #1 and it gets even more confusing.
3) Very much looking forward to seeing the Xbox Series S details!
1) TF are absolutely stupid measure in general. It gets even more silly when people point out the "power ranking" here.
2) There is no reason to be so defensive about MS' naming scheme. It's awful and confusing. Couple in #1 and it gets even more confusing.
3) Very much looking forward to seeing the Xbox Series S details!
Lol, my name is bad. Also, I'll still but one. Just don't love the name.
Sure. It's an objective thing where if people say the naming isn't an issue, they have to be defensive.
$499$399 seems too high. What do you expect the PS5 Digital edition to cost?
I wonder... if Halo Infinite will end up looking better on the One X than the Series S. Technically, the game doesn't look like it's doing anything that really takes advantage of next-gen features at launch, except pushing more pixels on the Series X.
So technically speaking, might we end up in a situation where the One X version runs at a higher resolution than on their Series S?
The raytracing patch adds a next-gen feature that won't be on last-gen, but yeah. At launch it'll be interesting.
The One S *can* do 4k and will output 4k for video playback primarily. Thing of it is no game really goes past 1080p on One S sans for some very select games (DOOM64).
My bad, saw to much sources that probably are wrong.Did you quote the wrong person or something? All I said was that 4TF RDNA2 should perform equivalent to a 6TF GCN card. I'm sure Series S will do well, it's a competent 1080p machine, but there is no need to throw around rubbish such as "it's equal to 7-8TF GCN" stated in your initial post. That is just clearly false.
I don't think it's objective at all, but I see a lot of people being oddly defensive about the naming? Maybe I'm mis-reading it, but it really comes across that way. Some people are calling it "concern trolling", but I don't really see it. When other companies do similarly bad names, they were (rightfully) pointed out at the time as well (>new< 3DS, Wii U, etc.)
Oh yeah lol it's not like the console is incapable it's just not capable of pushing a lot of pixels xD but the option is available for devs. You can see the Doom64 example I mentioned in this videoOh interesting, I thought games were locked to sub-1080p on the One S. I knew that it can do 4K+HDR for video playback, that was a big selling point of the system for many.
This video should be required viewing for anyone who wants to compare Series S's GPU power to that of the One X:
I haven't seen that but I'm sure those people are here. I just don't see an issue. I don't feel like people overall had an issue with the naming this gen.I don't think it's objective at all, but I see a lot of people being oddly defensive about the naming? Maybe I'm mis-reading it, but it really comes across that way. Some people are calling it "concern trolling", but I don't really see it. When other companies do similarly bad names, they were (rightfully) pointed out at the time as well (>new< 3DS, Wii U, etc.)
Oh yeah lol it's not like the console is incapable it's just not capable of pushing a lot of pixels xD but the option is available for devs. You can see the Doom64 example I mentioned in this video
I am 100% positive the Series S and X will follow the same design philosophy. Let the devs choose what the system outputs :)
I haven't seen that but I'm sure those people are here. I just don't see an issue. I don't feel like people overall had an issue with the naming this gen.
Ah, never considered that. Perhaps it's that the X is the more 'powerful' version? Because that applies to both Series X and X1X.The only potentially "confusing" part of MS' message is that the Xbox One set a precedent of the "S Model" being the standard/base, with the "X Model" serving the more powerful option for enthusiasts.
This gen the X is the standard model, and the S is a downstep option for more casual players or those who don't plan to jump to 4K.
But maybe they're banking on people thinking Series S = PS5 in all but price.
If Series S is on the same power of the One X GPU-wise, I say that's pretty likely!I will say I would be pretty ecstatic if the Series S could play my BC games at 4K, even if just the OG Xbox games.
Ah, never considered that. Perhaps it's that the X is the more 'powerful' version? Because that applies to both Series X and X1X.
That's my anticipation. $499, for the DE. And then the other one $50-$100 higher at least. I hope I'm wrong, though.
To clarify: CPU and RDNA 2.0 hardware graphical features is why the X1X can't. Later on: probably the SSD and the full suite of Velocity Architecture. Also, 4TF in the RDNA 2.0 architecture is about the same or greater than the TF in the X1X.Yeah I don't get all those talks on power and such since One X can't run next-gen games anyway while Series S can.
For optimized next gen game yeah. But what about Xbox one S/X games. Série S will run them like one S? One X? Middle ?To clarify: CPU and RDNA 2.0 hardware graphical features is why the X1X can't. Also, 4TF in the RDNA 2.0 architecture is about the same or greater than the TF in the X1X.
I think the lowered RAM would hold the Series S back more than anything. Probably the One S.For optimized next gen game yeah. But what about Xbox one S/X games. Série S will run them like one S? One X? Middle ?