No. It's still has to be plugged in.
No. It's still has to be plugged in.
"Robot" White? I don't get it, what is white about robots? I get Rose Gold or Jet Black but Robot White?
But yeah looks like Series S is confirmed.
Well they aren't making the old models anymore, and most stores are selling out of them. Come the console release date it won't be that big of a problem if the Series S looks like an Xbox One X but white.
MS is waiting for Sony to announce price before they announce Series S publicly. That is their Ace in the hole and it seems Sony knows this.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony waits it out and MS is forced to spit out their best offer, then Sony adjusts their price to ensure MS is stuck with the luxury model and the weaker one either isn't winning in price or value judgment won't be worth the reduced specs.
If anyone still thinks Lockhart/Series S isn't a lock, then let this dissuade any doubts - MS is waiting on the announce to try and sandwich Sony into a difficult spot.
If it's a digital-only console, then the point to losing money would be to lock people buying the Xbox Series S into purchasing games from the Xbox Store or subscribing to Game Pass. People purchasing Xbox Series S would have no way of cutting Microsoft out of sales by purchasing used games.There's no point in losing a lot of money on the S when they could have just done the same with X. Anyone expecting less than 299 is fooling themselves.
Also stop naming consumer products "Pro".
I don't really think people will care so long as they get to play the gamesI would say, now that both console names have been revealed from both platform holders, I prefer Sony's naming scheme: PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 5 All Digital Edition vs Microsoft's Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X.
Sony makes it clear that both versions are the same generation and both have the same power. With Microsoft's consoles, that isn't necessarily the case, the Series S doesn't necessarily scream out "less powerful." The mainstream consumer is going to be confused when they see both the Series X and Series S on digital shelves come this holiday. This won't be the case with Sony's more streamlined SKU lineup.
I guess, what I am trying to say is they Sony has the better branding and cleaner lineup.
Thoughts?
Sony makes it clear that both versions are the same generation and both have the same power. With Microsoft's consoles, that isn't necessarily the case, the Series S doesn't necessarily scream out "less powerful." The mainstream consumer is going to be confused when they see both the Series X and Series S on digital shelves come this holiday. This won't be the case with Sony's more streamlined SKU lineup.
They still will lose some money at 299. I'm talking about big losses.If it's a digital-only console, then the point to losing money would be to lock people buying the Xbox Series S into purchasing games from the Xbox Store or subscribing to Game Pass. People purchasing Xbox Series S would have no way of cutting Microsoft out of sales by purchasing used games.
I would say, now that both console names have been revealed from both platform holders, I prefer Sony's naming scheme: PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 5 All Digital Edition vs Microsoft's Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X.
Sony makes it clear that both versions are the same generation and both have the same power. With Microsoft's consoles, that isn't necessarily the case, the Series S doesn't necessarily scream out "less powerful." The mainstream consumer is going to be confused when they see both the Series X and Series S on digital shelves come this holiday. This won't be the case with Sony's more streamlined SKU lineup.
I guess, what I am trying to say is they Sony has the better branding and cleaner lineup.
Thoughts?
This does actually give the impression of being sold separately, as if the Series S might actually not come with a controller.
The One X is discontinued I thought
I haven't really been following this as closely as I should. This "low end" console will need to ship with many of the same components as the Xbox Series X, right? For example, it'll need the same SSD in it?
I saw some people estimating it'll cost $200 in this thread, but that's utterly insane, isn't it?
Kinda get where you're coming from. Sony's naming scheme shows that both SKU's are the same console but one's a completely digital, but MS' decided to go with "Series" to imply there's an ecosystem of consoles so each one in the 'series' is different which isn't that confusing IMO. But I wish they went with a different naming scheme than just a single letter.I would say, now that both console names have been revealed from both platform holders, I prefer Sony's naming scheme: PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 5 All Digital Edition vs Microsoft's Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X.
Sony makes it clear that both versions are the same generation and both have the same power. With Microsoft's consoles, that isn't necessarily the case, the Series S doesn't necessarily scream out "less powerful." The mainstream consumer is going to be confused when they see both the Series X and Series S on digital shelves come this holiday. This won't be the case with Sony's more streamlined SKU lineup.
I guess, what I am trying to say is they Sony has the better branding and cleaner lineup.
Thoughts?
It will have the same SSD, CPU, and system architecture. The only different thing is a 4 tflop RDNA2 gpu, which is good enough for 1440p/1080p gaming. Various insiders have been saying that Microsoft is willing to eat a lot of the cost on this, so $200 may not be out of the question. However, $299 is what most people have been estimating.I haven't really been following this as closely as I should. This "low end" console will need to ship with many of the same components as the Xbox Series X, right? For example, it'll need the same SSD in it?
I saw some people estimating it'll cost $200 in this thread, but that's utterly insane, isn't it?
Sony makes it clear that both versions are the same generation and both have the same power. With Microsoft's consoles, that isn't necessarily the case, the Series S doesn't necessarily scream out "less powerful." The mainstream consumer is going to be confused when they see both the Series X and Series S on digital shelves come this holiday. This won't be the case with Sony's more streamlined SKU lineup.
I would say, now that both console names have been revealed from both platform holders, I prefer Sony's naming scheme: PlayStation 5 and PlayStation 5 All Digital Edition vs Microsoft's Xbox Series S and Xbox Series X.
Sony makes it clear that both versions are the same generation and both have the same power. With Microsoft's consoles, that isn't necessarily the case, the Series S doesn't necessarily scream out "less powerful." The mainstream consumer is going to be confused when they see both the Series X and Series S on digital shelves come this holiday. This won't be the case with Sony's more streamlined SKU lineup.
I guess, what I am trying to say is they Sony has the better branding and cleaner lineup.
Thoughts?
I'm talking about big losses, as well. There's more of an incentive to take a larger loss on the less expensive hardware in that regard, as you'll make that up in subscriptions and whatnot over the course of the console generation.They still will lose some money at 299. I'm talking about big losses.
Various insiders have been saying that Microsoft is willing to eat a lot of the cost on this, so $200 may not be out of the question.
My first smartphone was a Samsung Galaxy S II Epic 4G Touch. Like a sane person, I just said it's the "Samsung S2" whenever anyone would ask.Xbox One
Xbox One S
Xbox One X
Xbox Series S
Xbox Series X
How can a massive corporation like Microsoft be this bad at naming their products?! My god.
There's no way it's $200.I haven't really been following this as closely as I should. This "low end" console will need to ship with many of the same components as the Xbox Series X, right? For example, it'll need the same SSD in it?
I saw some people estimating it'll cost $200 in this thread, but that's utterly insane, isn't it?
They moved it to the back. Plus, if Series S is digital, it won't even work on it.The Wii and the Wii U looked almost exactly the same. Also, Nintendo's marketing was TERRIBLE. Not really an apples to apples comparison here
They already removed it.
-Weaker GPU (targeting 1080p/1440p)
-diskless
-Lower ram
Some people are saying it'll come without a controller but I don't buy into that
No chance in hell it'll be that cheap at launch. I'd expect it to cost $299 max, otherwise the value proposition gets a lot worse.I haven't really been following this as closely as I should. This "low end" console will need to ship with many of the same components as the Xbox Series X, right? For example, it'll need the same SSD in it?
I saw some people estimating it'll cost $200 in this thread, but that's utterly insane, isn't it?
How is a next-gen SKU such an enigma this close to launch. Will XSX launch by itself? Have developers even started developing for XSS yet?
That's a funny thought actually! But I think outside of a major marketing gaffe I don't think that'll happen hahaWeirdly, I wonder if it could hurt Sony in some way. I assume the Xbox Series S will also not have a disc drive, so I wonder if some people might think the PS5 without a disc drive is "less powerful" than the standard PS5 as well...
XSX isn't gonna be $100 more lmao. My prediction:
PS5 & XSX: $499
PS5 DE: $399
XSS: $299 no controller included
This controller looks retail shelf ready. Wonder how soon it will be available