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That's Dragon Ball since Tien learned the mafuba only to get bodied by Piccolo right after if you aren't Goku, or Gohan once, then you aren't beating the main villain and you might not even beat his goons either.
I think my favorite bit of nonsense from the ToP was how people had to try and hold back and not totally burn themselves out... by fighting even harder and more than they had before.
Fans have been asking that for what, decades now?
I remember seeing one, but I'm too lazy to look for it lol
I am more annoyed that the villain is named...Granola.
Granola. Really?
I know Dragon Ball likes its food puns but really? It's the stuff that makes the most worthless type of bars.
Gohan got the final win in the Cell/Android Saga, not Goku. And Vegeta helped out a little!
That makes it different.
Granola. Really?
I know Dragon Ball likes its food puns but really? It's the stuff that makes the most worthless type of bars.
Piccolo forfeited in the Universe 6/7 Arc to Frost, not Vegeta.
Hey now, let's be fair.
Gohan got the final win in the Cell/Android Saga, not Goku. And Vegeta helped out a little!
That makes it different.
Gohan was about to lose until Ghost Goku stepped in to get the win.
Pretty sure it was Vegeta who made the difference since even Ghostku couldn't get Gohan to finish off Cell when the latter stepped in until Vegeta caught Cell off-guard.
Even after Vegeta Gohan was just chilling until ghostku, correctly, identified that it was now his chance. The rest was trivial from there.
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Goku motivated Gohan.
If you anything you would argue Vegeta won that fight.
Why does Vegeta still refer to himself as Prince?
Isn't he King now? Wouldn't Trunks be the current Prince?
Isn't he King now? Wouldn't Trunks be the current Prince?
Yeah but he got better.
Also one of those times he killed himself so it doesn't count.
Welcome to DB names, also he's NOT the villain, he's basically the main character.
The post is about Goku…. Goku forfeit to Hit.
The manga is canon, the movie itself? Probably but we don't know when it takes place.. they could easily say a few weeks after Broly. Similar to how at the beginning of Broly they have a throwaway line about ToP had happened.
At this point, this should never end.
It should be every mangaka and showrunner's job to let Vegeta keep up with the latest power ups only to get tossed around like a rag doll.
Every. single. time.
Only then you will always know you're watching/reading the Dragon Ball you know and love.
The Manga for Super is Canon?
Lest im mistaken the things after ToP are manga only and likely wont be in the next movie or even if Super anime comes back.
Cuz this Vegeta form is fucking wack.....I dont mind a God of Destruction mode or whatever similar to Toppo but that brow and then getting jobbed literally the chapter we get a full view of the form is a frikken joke.
It's canon but things play out differently so the anime takes its own liberties. One thing I wished from the manga that didn't make it to the anime was Gohan's Piccolo Gi for ToP.
I think the manga is still using Toriyama outlines so when (HOPE) the anime comes back they either adapt the outlines and not just copy the manga or skip over the manga stuff for whatever Toriyama comes up with next.
Chapter is out and would you look at that, Vegeta didn't lose this chapter. Most of the chapter is him smacking Granolah around and at the end Granolah blows up a blast in his face but the fight isn't over. Also no mention of his senzu being destroyed when he took off his armor.
"Wagamama no Gokui", it's a wordplay based on "Migatte no Gokui" (Secret of Selfishness), the Japanese name for Ultra Instinct.
It's missing the fact that even if Goku is the one that beats Recoome and Burter, Vegeta is actually the one that kills the whole Ginyu Force except for Ginyu himself. I consider that a 4Ws for my dude Vegeta.
What people seem to forget is that Vegeta is consistently the one that Goku falls back on to achieve the final win in the end - even if Vegeta ends up beaten and doesnt deliver the final blow alot of the time, the earth and Goku´s friends would have been dead a hundred times over without him. He also plays an equal pivotal role to defeating the final boss, Buu, as Goku does. Without Vegeta there would be no Vegito and it was Vegetas idea to defeat Buu with a Genkidama fueled by the power of the all humanity.
It's obviously not in the original series, but he one-shot kills Ginyu in DBS.
HOLY SHIT, it's called ULTRA EGO?!?!?! That's DOPE!!!
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People left out that when vegeta "lost" (which isnt really accurate), he was wounded badly. He even seems to notice he is pushing his body to the limit mid fight. He seemed more concerned with that limit than granolah. It seems there is a limit to the damage he can take before his power has diminishing returns. His sight was going bad. Also this was the "first time" he used the form as well. This isnt nearly as bad as people made it out to be. Sure, he "lost" (although the fight is still just getting started technically), but it was in a much better way than just getting dunked on like people made it seem. Granollah got one lucky shot off on him so what? They made it seem like he got dragged and shit!
Also:
"Oil"
"Oatmeel"
LMAOOO
I mean we're counting wins in battle, not kills
Vegito was basically pointless as far as overall plot goes, let's call it what it is : fanservice or Toriyama having fun with the fusion concept for a while.
It's a nice diversion that fills up a few pages in volume 42.
And really for the final buu fight, big buu actually put up a fight there. Vegeta was collecting Ls like they were going out of style.
Vegeta's only purpose in the final buu part is being Goku's hype man and taking Ls.
The dude is really just there as a hype man for Goku and taking Ls.