Lol "well if you tell us not to be shitty then we'll just go back to when things were worse and it'll be all your fault"
I don't care about PETA so much, just that people are ignorant enough to actually believe PETA cares about animals. They are a money make scheme, the feed on people want to help, but kill animals instead of helping them. Do you have any idea how many species would be extinct today if they weren't domesticated? PETA doesn't care. PETA would rather they be extinct.
Yes, I was about to say this. I won't even research these assumptions because they support my position. If you find PETA abhorrent for killing animals, you'll have to find slaughterhouses worse by a factor of a million. I have yet to be conviced that the PETA hatred is not propaganda, because it sure looks like propaganda from here.
Sure, I would still argue that PETA does more good than harm, but your stance makes more sense to me now.
nothing. read the thread. the rats were euthanized as part of food safety testing (ie, they fed a bunch of their plant-derived heme to rats and studied their bodies to show there were no adverse effects)
Says the person that posted bullshit from an astroturf company funded by fast food companies.
I'm not an expert on the subject, but not every chemical in a plant is in the parts we actually eat, and the concentration also matters. It doesn't matter if we already consume it if the amount we would consume in other avenues is tiny compared to what we're consuming here
What the hell man. As if I didn't already fear ticks enough. That sounds like one hell of a thing to adjust to
sure, but they're producing their heme with genetically modified yeast, not legumes
Sorry, not going to verify all of the sources from a source posting obvious bullshit.
Plant derived heme doesn't tell you which part of the plant it's in or how much is being used. Looking it up it seems it's in the root which I'm not sure if we eat? I mean for reference, we eat apples all the time but the seeds do contain a small amount of chemicals that can produce cyanide when they're chewed. It's just the concentration is low enough to not be an issue and we don't eat the seeds of an apple anyways
You know what else motivates companies? Public image.
Human volunteers will sue you if something goes wrong. Computer models aren't so complex that they can test food and neither are cell cultures. Testing on animals is the most reliable and effective way to test products.
yeah this is how i feel.
Those sources largely aren't about PETA killing animals (I don't see an MSN link though), they're mostly about the ridiculous ads PETA runs, which I largely agree with. It's the main reason I would never give them money, and prefer supporting organizations like Mercy for Animals or The Humane League.
What are computer models and tissue cultures supposed to do to tell you how a product or drug interacts with all of the complex systems of a living body?
Yeah, I knew someone who was began not by choice, but because she had some kind of animal protein allergy. In her case I could understand if that small trace was enough to set her off, she'd have a case. Otherwise the just seems frivolous.
Behind every moment of progress in history is someone saying "this is as good as we're gonna get"
Ricin is extracted from castor beans so it's probably perfectly safe to sprinkle on your food.
