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laser

Member
Feb 17, 2018
310
I mean, maybe we have different interpretations of social media. I see it more as a diary almost. Not a place to give official statements.

I don't know everything he posted. I don't keep up with internet drama. I saw a few people calling him names over one or two tweets and read them and didn't see the big deal. He's allowed to be stupid. I don't think he's hurting anyone by posting something to twitter. No one cares what notch thinks.

LOL. Like clockwork. You haven't kept up with anything and yet Kramers into the thread giving your ignorant opinion. Glad you see racism and transphobia as "not a big deal".
 
Oct 25, 2017
26,560
I mean, maybe we have different interpretations of social media. I see it more as a diary almost. Not a place to give official statements.

I don't know everything he posted. I don't keep up with internet drama. I saw a few people calling him names over one or two tweets and read them and didn't see the big deal. He's allowed to be stupid. I don't think he's hurting anyone by posting something to twitter. No one cares what notch thinks.
I repeat, look at the tweets he's posted before dying on this hill.

Also, dude has millions of followers so a lot of people care.
 
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Kilbane65

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,459
"weird tweets"
"private opinions"

You're either actually ignorant to the things he's said or you don't actually care or believe what he said is wrong.

He deserves nothing and everything you're saying is incredibly suspect.
Seriously, that post has so many red flags in it I'm singing the Internationale right now.
 

Kendall

Banned
Apr 22, 2019
490
LOL. Like clockwork. You haven't kept up with anything and yet Kramers into the thread giving your ignorant opinion. Glad you see racism and transphobia as "not a big deal".
Okay, i did look up transphobic comments. He comes across as someone ignorant and poorly educated on the subject. I hope he improves on that and can be apart of Minecraft if and when he apologies.

I thought the MS blacklisting was in response to him talking about privilege or something. If there's anything else super damaging, please share it so i can understand.
 

metalslimer

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,558
Okay, i did look up transphobic comments. He comes across as someone ignorant and poorly educated on the subject. I hope he improves on that and can be apart of Minecraft if and when he apologies.

I thought the MS blacklisting was in response to him talking about privilege or something. If there's anything else super damaging, please share it so i can understand.

It's not poor education. He is just a bigot and I dont see why you feel anything for him
 
Oct 29, 2017
5,354
Good, Minecraft isn't even "his" by any definition anymore. The last few major updates haven't had his involvement at all. The game is something else now.
 

Deleted member 13148

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,188
Okay, i did look up transphobic comments. He comes across as someone ignorant and poorly educated on the subject. I hope he improves on that and can be apart of Minecraft if and when he apologies.

I thought the MS blacklisting was in response to him talking about privilege or something. If there's anything else super damaging, please share it so i can understand.
How about doing your own research before you stan for a racist, transphobic piece of shit? It's been posted plenty of times before.
 

Kendall

Banned
Apr 22, 2019
490
It's not poor education. He is just a bigot and I dont see why you feel anything for him
I don't like labeling others as bigoted. I have family members sheltered from the outside world. I think a lot of people are generally good at heart and misnformed about certain subjects, but don't mean any harm or malice. I like to hope maybe he's one of these people
 

BassForever

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 25, 2017
29,907
CT
I don't like labeling others as bigoted. I have family members sheltered from the outside world. I think a lot of people are generally good at heart and misnformed about certain subjects, but don't mean any harm or malice. I like to hope maybe he's one of these people

Stop, notch has all the time and money in the world to be educated. He is clearly just a hateful prick and doesn't deserve anyone's time of day. We have years of notch tweeting and generally being a shit bag where it's clearly passed the point of ignorance. The only person misinformed is you.
 

Apathy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,992
Good, he's a trash human. Someone with so much money and instead of doing good he just continues to be shit
 

Dark Ninja

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,070
I doubt he cares at this point he already made his money and probably any involvement when he sold it.
 

metalslimer

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,558
I don't like labeling others as bigoted. I have family members sheltered from the outside world. I think a lot of people are generally good at heart and misnformed about certain subjects, but don't mean any harm or malice. I like to hope maybe he's one of these people

What? He is actively using racist and transphobic language. He wants people to know that he thinks these things. He is a billionaire who cannot ever play the I was too sheltered card ( and no this does not excuse your family if they are bigots either)
 

Taker34

QA Tester
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
1,122
building stone people
I don't like labeling others as bigoted. I have family members sheltered from the outside world. I think a lot of people are generally good at heart and misnformed about certain subjects, but don't mean any harm or malice. I like to hope maybe he's one of these people
For one you could do some research before participating in certain discussion. How come you already have an opinion about something you haven't even looked up? We're not supposed to spoon-feed you with information while you defend bigotry in the meantime. Instead of hoping for people to be "mislabeled as bigots" you could do some research beforehand. Just my two cents.
 

Fat4all

Woke up, got a money tag, swears a lot
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Oct 25, 2017
92,358
here
this ones a classic

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Eumi

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Nov 3, 2017
3,518
I don't like labeling others as bigoted. I have family members sheltered from the outside world. I think a lot of people are generally good at heart and misnformed about certain subjects, but don't mean any harm or malice. I like to hope maybe he's one of these people
Maybe, just maybe, you should actually know what it is the person you're defending as "good at heart" has said?

I mean, I'm sure you don't actually care, and are either trying to subtly stan for a bigot or this is an ego, moral high ground thing for you, but Notch has said some truly awful things. And no, his social media isn't a goddamn diary, it's a public platform reaching millions of people. You should care less about how he is secretly a good person inside and more about the real hurt he's pushing to thousands of people.

But, on the off chance that you actually are here to try and have a conversation and learn something (and again, I doubt it considering you decided to defend someone without even bothering to look up what you were defending them for), the please take a look at your "hopes" and realise how they've led you to defend and downplay hate speech.
 

jariw

Member
Oct 27, 2017
4,283
Okay, i did look up transphobic comments. He comes across as someone ignorant and poorly educated on the subject. I hope he improves on that and can be apart of Minecraft if and when he apologies.

I thought the MS blacklisting was in response to him talking about privilege or something. If there's anything else super damaging, please share it so i can understand.

He isn't part of Minecraft anymore, since he sold it to Microsoft.

Also, Notch is a member of Mensa. He should be intelligent enough to not post such "ignorant and poorly educated" posts, don't you think?
 

Kendall

Banned
Apr 22, 2019
490
Maybe, just maybe, you should actually know what it is the person you're defending as "good at heart" has said?

I mean, I'm sure you don't actually care, and are either trying to subtly stan for a bigot or this is an ego, moral high ground thing for you, but Notch has said some truly awful things. And no, his social media isn't a goddamn diary, it's a public platform reaching millions of people. You should care less about how he is secretly a good person inside and more about the real hurt he's pushing to thousands of people.

But, on the off chance that you actually are here to try and have a conversation and learn something (and again, I doubt it considering you decided to defend someone without even bothering to look up what you were defending them for), the please take a look at your "hopes" and realise how they've led you to defend and downplay hate speech.
Thank you for responding and pointing out that he's said hate speech.

Again, I don't know everything. I dont keep up with notch. I don't have twitter. I was going off accusations in the OP that didn't offer much context or provide many quotes. I just remember him from when i was young in behind the scenes videos. I think he might have been to conventions too. I did see the tweet a few posts above you where he called people cunts, so i have a better sense of why microsft is distancing themselves from him. He's talking like a South Park character. I hope he can mature someday, apologize for what he's said in the past, and be apart of minecraft someday.

I saw maybe two tweets make the front page of reddit and didnt realize it was part of a pattern.
 

Fat4all

Woke up, got a money tag, swears a lot
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Oct 25, 2017
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actually that bottom one is fake too. the original was Women.

wild that it ended up being real though in a sense. life imitating art. also ironic that the person who made that fake image ended up being super racist themselves.
thanks for the info, I'll edit it out

there's already enough shitty tweets to choose from, don't need to get fake ones in there too
 

statham

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,449
FloRida
The guy said shitty things, but he still made the game. It would be like removing the name Richard Wagner from all the operas he composed because he was a disgusting antisemite. There are tons of cases of the love of art having to be separated from the person who created it. Sucks, but it's true.
I mean, maybe we have different interpretations of social media. I see it more as a diary almost. Not a place to give official statements.

I don't know everything he posted. I don't keep up with internet drama. I saw a few people calling him names over one or two tweets and read them and didn't see the big deal. He's allowed to be stupid. I don't think he's hurting anyone by posting something to twitter. No one cares what notch thinks.
Nope. Ban him and all that support him. fuck any of this white male power. This is a important time in the world, hope this website sees it the same way.
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,849
Okay, i did look up transphobic comments. He comes across as someone ignorant and poorly educated on the subject. I hope he improves on that and can be apart of Minecraft if and when he apologies.

I thought the MS blacklisting was in response to him talking about privilege or something. If there's anything else super damaging, please share it so i can understand.

Lmao.

He's a notorious bigot who has spouted literal hate speech and harmful malice.

Maybe next time inform yourself BEFORE you start commenting on the subject?
 

Florin4k4

Banned
Mar 18, 2019
516
I have almost zero knowledge about this subject and clicked on this thread out of curiosity and to get better informed and while reading about the subject i was confused about a line in the description.
I'm sure there's a context that is there that i don't know about but Why is his tweet "it's ok to be white" included as a negative? Is it some white supremacist or hate group motto or something?
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,849
I have almost zero knowledge about this subject and clicked on this thread out of curiosity and to get better informed and while reading about the subject i was confused about a line in the description.
I'm sure there's a context that is there that i don't know about but Why is his tweet "it's ok to be white" included as a negative? Is it some white supremacist or hate group motto or something?
Because it's bullshit "endangered white man" nonsense in relation to social progress.
 

TheRuralJuror

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,497
I have almost zero knowledge about this subject and clicked on this thread out of curiosity and to get better informed and while reading about the subject i was confused about a line in the description.
I'm sure there's a context that is there that i don't know about but Why is his tweet "it's ok to be white" included as a negative? Is it some white supremacist or hate group motto or something?

Probably because no one ever said it was wrong to be white to begin with. He's full of shit.
 
Nov 14, 2017
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He deserves credit and recognition at PR events like this. His contributions are instrumental to gaming.

Black listing him like he's a sexual deviant and sending him these subtle F U's arent right. Because of private opinions and ignorance?
Not inviting someone isn't the same as blacklisting them. Will everyone involved in the creation of Minecraft be attending that event?

In any case, anniversary events are an opportunity to celebrate what something means today. If the creator of something has developed reactionary views, why should they still be invited? It'd be like inviting Francis Crick to celebrate the anniversary of discovering DNA or something, as funnily enough he seems to share the same wrong views about IQ as Notch.
 

astro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
56,849
Okay i will. Thank you.

I did not know it was a pattern.

Please do. There's a good reason people were so upset with your posts.

Thank you for understanding the reaction and considering the impact. It's more common for people to play victim and double down, so that was really good to see.
 

Keldroc

Member
Oct 27, 2017
11,968
The guy said shitty things, but he still made the game. It would be like removing the name Richard Wagner from all the operas he composed because he was a disgusting antisemite. There are tons of cases of the love of art having to be separated from the person who created it. Sucks, but it's true.

Well this is a pretty good way of separating Minecraft from notch, so...
 

Alucrid

Chicken Photographer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,404
He's talking like a South Park character.

i can't believe this is a frame of reference

I hope he can mature someday, apologize for what he's said in the past, and be apart of minecraft someday.

he's 39 years old

The guy said shitty things, but he still made the game. It would be like removing the name Richard Wagner from all the operas he composed because he was a disgusting antisemite. There are tons of cases of the love of art having to be separated from the person who created it. Sucks, but it's true.

we already went over this when notch references were removed from the splash screen. your little heart can rest easy because he's still in the credits.
 

Psamtik

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,834
Maybe he was always trending in this direction, and fuck him either way, but Notch is a perfect example of how destructive the Internet can be if you just have nothing else going on. All it takes is the basic inclination to consume this shit, and the algorithms will feed you a constant, increasingly virulent stream of poison.

He could've done anything with that Minecraft money. He shouldn't have any worries in the world. He could've just pulled the plug and gone on a ten-year vacation, but instead...
 

take_marsh

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,241
I wouldn't want a person like him at my party either.

He created something, but he doesn't have some natural right to being part of these things even if he's a creator. It's not his baby any more.
 

diakyu

Member
Dec 15, 2018
17,518
2.5 billion dollars, I had no idea it was that much. And what a piece of garbage it all went to.
 

Viale

▲ Legend ▲
Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,613
Good. This guy is absolute scum. It amuses me that Microsoft clearly says he isn't invited because of his "comments and opinions". I can't think of very many professional responses that distinctly call out someone.
 

Miscend

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
265
Is that for real? That's completely unbelievable if it is. You wouldn't think someone who singlehandedly built a game that is as all about community spirit as Minecraft would post garbage like that. I don't get why is he so angry after making so much money like he did, does he feel heterosexuals are marginalised or something.
 

HylianSeven

Shin Megami TC - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
18,995
I mean, maybe we have different interpretations of social media. I see it more as a diary almost. Not a place to give official statements.

I don't know everything he posted. I don't keep up with internet drama. I saw a few people calling him names over one or two tweets and read them and didn't see the big deal. He's allowed to be stupid. I don't think he's hurting anyone by posting something to twitter. No one cares what notch thinks.
I mean the dude has posted outright bigotry. Don't die on this hill dude, there is zero reason to defend this guy.