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[VARIETY] ‘Star Trek: Picard’: Patrick Stewart on Why He Returned to the Final Frontier
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Patric Steward is 80 or something. Action picard should be long gone.
I liked Discovery S2 more than 1, but I hated how both ended up just being about saving the entire world/universe. This kind of seems like it's trending in that direction as well, but we'll see. I haven't really been following super closely as to what it's about. There's several plot threads from TNG they could pull at to set up an interesting sci-fi story.
I don't mind "action" Trek, but hopefully they strike a decent balance. Also really hoping the editing is better in this show than Discovery. The amount of quick cuts and other weird shit in that show is unbearable at times.
I don't mind "action" Trek, but hopefully they strike a decent balance. Also really hoping the editing is better in this show than Discovery. The amount of quick cuts and other weird shit in that show is unbearable at times.
I'm angry that real life is set hundreds of years before TOS and we have better UIs.
Sounds like a lot of people in here haven't watched Discovery past the first season.
Anyway, I'm glad they're trying to do something different from TNG. If I want TNG, I'll watch TNG. I just want to the show to be good.
Sometimes to good to break outside the mold, if they didn't do the same many years ago we wouldn't have had the awesome DS9 series.
Anyway, I'm glad they're trying to do something different from TNG. If I want TNG, I'll watch TNG. I just want to the show to be good.
Sometimes to good to break outside the mold, if they didn't do the same many years ago we wouldn't have had the awesome DS9 series.
Man, this is why I'm not overly excited for Picard though. It's also why I'm not very fond of how Discovery turned out.
What I really want is new modern Star Trek in a similar vein to TNG. I want the same texture, tone, format, production values, all done with new stories and casts.
I don't feel that the TNG style of Trek was broken, so why do they keep trying to "fix" it?
I really don't get what some see in S2. It's just as bad as S1, but goes the extra step of actively throwing away the few interesting ideas S1 had.
And we've seen this version Trek before, every time they gave Stewart what he wanted (Starship Mine, Captain's Holiday, Insurrection, Nemesis). It's always been awful.
DS9 is amazing, and if this show reaches those heights then great. But I have my doubts...
I mean, that's great, it's good to like things.
But I will say even that 25% hit rate for you personally ain't too great.
Very true, but that probably did seem futuristic when it came out in 1966.
We need Ira Stephen Behr back in the writer's room.
And J. Michael Straczynski - either on ST or a Babylon 5 successor.
Isn't there some network mogul who has a soft spot for these kinds of heady sci-fi shows and is willing to write the check to bring them back in the modern era?
I agree S2 of Discovery isn't perfect, but it shows them trying to correct their mistakes with S1. We'll see how it goes with S3 since they won't be restricted by canon.
Were those episodes and movies actually what he wanted or just focused more on him?
Anyway, I'm sure Picard will have the same reception as most long-standing franchises in recent years; most fans will hate it.
I understand what you're getting at but I never really understood why this is such a big problem. Any piece of fiction is a child of its time, with all the limitations that come with it. If you look back at TNG things are looking really iffy as well. Does that mean that those pieces of media should be a 'definitive version' of the technology/fashion/whatever in that point in time in that fictional universe? No, I don't think so. I do think that it can be done in a tasteful matter; I was pretty happy with how they portrayed the Enterprise in Discovery S2.
Sure, that's why Picard is already renewed for season 2. Please stop believing Midnight's Edge and similar online shit rags. If you don't like current Star Trek that's fine, you don't have to but there's really no sign that CBS is unhappy with Discovery, Picard or any aspect of the current statemkfnthe universe. They're quadrupling down in it with three new shows in development (the two cartoons and section 31), it looks like Discovery might already be renewed for season 4 ... they are not unhappy with it, just accept that.
Sounds like criticism of TNG during its early seasons.
I never bought into the supposed ideals of the future society that ended poverty, classism, money, etc. It's clearly shown in the shows that everyone who gets into Starfleet Academy is the 1% versus everyone else. You were either a Starfleet Officer or a complete nobody in that future society, clear classism. Also, the shows had tons of conflict via the human condition showing jealously, greed, prejudice, anger, etc. Somehow they supposedly have an idealllic society, yet we still see individuals who accumulated vast wealth and power versus others who have nothing, does it really matter if currency was supposedly abolished if you still have the super rich in the future while others are barely getting by doing work on a freighter? Sure seems like poverty still exists in their future as well as classism and many other societal problems. Maybe they fixed starvation with free replicator food for all but they still have restaurants on Earth apparently..
I'm not saying its a huge deal (to me at least) I take that into account so I understand why they do it. But it is jarring when you have watched them all and know the timelines and lore around everything and it just pulls me out of it a little to think about why the ship is more futuristic that anything we have seen around that timeline or why the klingons look different in almost every generation of the show (love how they joked about that in DS9) and other smaller things.
I dont think it takes away from the show in general because I understand why they do it, it just takes me out of the story from time to time. But truely I am just happy to have new Star Trek to watch.
Action trek is the worst trek, so we shall see how it goes. Stewart's past opinions on who Picard should be have all been shit, so I am not confident. I will give the show a chance though because I am not as zealous in my views as what is Star Trek as others are.
Supposedly people are doing what they want to do. Old man Sisko had a restaurant because he enjoyed it. Joe Schmo works on a freighter because that is what he wants to do. In a universe with anti-grav lifts and teleporters, I don't think that would be a bad "job," if you can't hack Starfleet but still want to see the galaxy. Though not all humans are in the Federation, so outside of the Federation seemingly humans can get nasty, which puts a big hole in the "humans have evolved" thing. Personally, I have never been a fan of the whole "humans have evolved" though and was happy they backed away from it after Roddenberry passed.
Supposedly people are doing what they want to do. Old man Sisko had a restaurant because he enjoyed it. Joe Schmo works on a freighter because that is what he wants to do. In a universe with anti-grav lifts and teleporters, I don't think that would be a bad "job," if you can't hack Starfleet but still want to see the galaxy. Though not all humans are in the Federation, so outside of the Federation seemingly humans can get nasty, which puts a big hole in the "humans have evolved" thing. Personally, I have never been a fan of the whole "humans have evolved" though and was happy they backed away from it after Roddenberry passed.
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I've been dreading this show since the trailer hit. Deep down I want to believe but all signs point to hot garbage.
I'm glad they moved away from the humans "evolved" too, as the storylines clearly showed human nature was still the same in the far future even if they supposedly solved societal problems on Earth. People were just as "bad" and have the same potential for good, and the shows would be boring if everyone acted like saints. I still don't really believe people just do what they want in the Federation future, there are clearly haves vs have nots. I get wanting to own a restaurant for real food instead of replicator food, but who would enjoy working as a waiter or 2ndary chef if they didn't have to? It's one thing to own the restaurant and/or work as the executive chef vs slaving away at a low level position. Something similar could be said to lower level positions in Starfleet / on starships. Who wants to be the low level maintenance worker working on starship sanitation and other menial tasks who usually are the first to die whenever a fight breaks out, man engineering departments seem to have high casualties for a non-combat unit as engines and other mechanically important parts of a ship are targeted first.
I fear that it will be at least as bad as the woeful Discovery at first, but hopefully improving as the season progresses.
I'm happy with the current state of Trek and I don't regard Discovery as "Action Trek" at all.
Apart from TOS I can't think of many better starts to a Star Trek series than the first two seasons of Discovery.
Apart from TOS I can't think of many better starts to a Star Trek series than the first two seasons of Discovery.
Not true at all. There has been an organized hit campaign on all things Star Trek since Discovery season one started. None of the "rumors" coming out of some of these "YouTube channels" have panned out at all and now they have their own websites peddling this nonsense. They have a huge rage boner against Alex Kurtzman and have been trying to crap all over all things Star Trek since then because none of them apparently have anything better to do. Lots of people apparently keep reading and watching their content and believing their lies.
Picard received an early season 2 order and it's also rumored that Star Trek: Discovery has received an early renewal for a season 4 already. If these shows were a huge dumpster fire for CBS they wouldn't keep greenlighting more seasons, more Short Treks and more shows.
thank you for exposing yourself as a right wing conspiracy loon
Trek is going back to its roots in TOS. What you want is in the Orville.
Because Patrick Stewart has no interest in doing that.
This is why we have dumb scenes of him fencing, etc. I'm afraid no matter how well done it is, it probably won't strike a cord with this TNG viewer. I'm expecting it to have far more in common with the movies.
Aside from some standout performances from picardo and Ryan, with a good dose of TNG guest sets from broccoli, troy and q, it may have less respect from its viewers.
That is true. I follow Star Trek news and rumors and 90% of the time these channels are dead wrong with their rumors and predictions.
Let's not do this. People should be allowed to be skeptical about a new show and they should be allowed to not like Discovery. Wanting only one opinion to be presented, the positive one, defeats the whole purpose of a discussion forum.
Yeah, this is really eroding my interest in this show. Discovery sucked and now it seems like this is gonna suck too. Between CBS' TV shows and Paramounts dreadful films the future of the series is on shaky ground. Maybe Noah Hawley can make something worthwhile with his movie.
Why can't we get something post Voyager/DS9, with an optimistic view of humanities future, where an ensamble crew explores the Galaxy in a starship. Tackle issues relevant to modern viewers. And disregard the terrible JJ movie entirely, Romulus should not be destroyed.
Why does everything have to be gritty, grounded, serialized and cynical.
Equating Voyager to Discovery is very harsh of the former!
Also the important thing to remember for us Star Trek fans is that no matter how 'Picard' turns out (not totally confident myself - with the showrunners and Stewarts history of input in the past) that this will always still be there!
Also the important thing to remember for us Star Trek fans is that no matter how 'Picard' turns out (not totally confident myself - with the showrunners and Stewarts history of input in the past) that this will always still be there!
