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Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 senior narrative designer Cara Ellison has left the project
- Thread starter CenturionNami
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Covid-19 did end in 2021 and by that I mean it mutated so much that it's now called Covid-Z
I don't understand how anyone has any faith in this project outside of the name on the box at this point.
You're basically putting your faith in the uuuhhhh Blacklight: Tango Down developers to deftly pick and choose the narrative elements that the original creatives leads wrote(while ousting them?)
Everything about this game screams like something milquetoast is about to get sieved out.
You're basically putting your faith in the uuuhhhh Blacklight: Tango Down developers to deftly pick and choose the narrative elements that the original creatives leads wrote(while ousting them?)
Everything about this game screams like something milquetoast is about to get sieved out.
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Welp... I cancelled my pre order when Mitsoda and Ka'ai got fired, but still had interest and hoped it would be at least "okayish". Now my interest is just non-existent
Halo Infinite:
- Creative Director
- Lead Producer
- And added two new leads two months ago.
I'd say that's just as troubled as this, NGL
Do they have Storywriter left? First they had the Avalone issue and then at least one other storywriter left the company last half year.
holy shit I forgot about Dying Light 2. Yeah, keeping expectations in check. There hasn't been a peer about DL2 and any news about Bloodlines 2 is somehow worse than the last lol
But here I can understand the turnover. Microsoft had to react to this massive failure, so at least the Lead Producer and Creative Director has to go, they are like a team manager in sports. If they suck, they get fired.
The question is, if Microsoft trusted 343 fully (so the people firing was the right move) or they thought the current state of Halo is totally OK (then it was just normal reaction).
From bts scenes talk Avellone was a big mistake. They wanted a game that was taken seriously writing wise with dynamic branching narrative but also had everything that Dead Island and Dying Light had.
I personally was, and everyone should have been, extremely skeptical on the first demo that had in the moment weighty choices that directly impacted gameplay but also advertised full 4 player drop in/out coop. That was never going to work.
Those changes happened in 2019, well before this whole "Halo infinite looks like poop" debacle. Also to my knowledge no one was fired, they left on their own merrit. There can be many reasons someone decides to leave a company and none of them need to be negative.
I'm basically committed now, since I pre-ordered on GMG during a sale a long time ago and I'm pretty sure they don't do refunds this far past the purchase date, but yeah, it doesn't look good now that this is confirmed.
Another Vampire licensed game came out recently, more of a visual novel thing. You're probably thinking of that one.
You know
I'm still going to look forward to the soundtrack to this thing. Maybe at least *that* will be good.
I'm still going to look forward to the soundtrack to this thing. Maybe at least *that* will be good.
You haven't gotten any product yet, highly doubt they can just refuse a refund
Yeah, that's bad. I doubt they'll want/be able to wipe off all writing and ideas from the leads, so I'm sure there will still be some good left in it. But it seemed like this game could be great and now I'll be pleasantly surprised if it's even good. What a shame.
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You will certainly get your money back if the game is shitcanned, which is looking likely at this point.
Thanks for the reminder, OP, filed a refund request as soon as I read your post. Now I've got some extra Steam cash!
Ehh. This is a valid point, as much as it pains me to admit it.
I honestly don't know what's going on with this project, and I also know most games are not the creation of a small group of talents - So I'm not as quick to jump on the "game is dead" train. I'm obviously more worried about the project, but I think declaring it a sure failure at this point is just as silly as not being worried at all.
Loosing your senior writer, narrative designer and creative director at a point where the game was supposed to be out already seems like a completely normal thing.
The onus is on them to show that the game is still on track tho. We still seen any recent gameplay and I don't think they have said a word about all the firings. (Tho it doesn't sound like Cara was fired)
Yes, but the guys that left left a year ago, not because of the recent mixed reception of the game, or the delay. Schreier and Klepek have separately said that Halo Infinite's development has not been even remotely good.
At any case, seems like Bloodlines 2 and Dying Light 2 are fighting for the crown of the poorest managed upcoming project.
It's the mark of Caine, I swear.
In any case, it seems evident now that Paradox absolutely mismanaged the project. I'm already bracing for cut content all over the place.
"Many of her contributions"
While I'm indiferent towards Cara Ellison (good writer and passionate about the universe, although I didn't quite agree with some of her takes on the franchise), this doesn't fill me with confidence. The fact that changes have been focused on design and creative development is making me extra wary. There's nothing normal about this.
Morbid as it may be, at this point I'm more interested about the post-mortem than the game itself.
I'm... i'm on the verge of cancelling my pre-order, honestly. As big of a fan i am of V:tM i just see this game falling apart everywhere. My only hope for it to be good is that Bloodlines turned out to be an awesome game despite the fact that it was released completely broken.
Well, at least we'll have Shadowsong.
And the Shadows of New York and Heart of the Forest visual novels were fairly good, too.
This. I already cancelled my preorder but I'm still following the game. Even if it turns out underwhelming, it'll be a platform for future mods.
Well, Coteries were, uh, fine, I guess?
It was more of an introduction to the WoD setting than anything else.
Shadows are much better, character- and storywise.
