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Valve Index Available June 28 ($499.99 VR Headset Only, $749.99 Headset + Controllers, $999.99 Headset + Controllers + Base Stations)
- Thread starter Schierke Mori
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That's prolly gonna be like another $500 add-on. These prices are insane...
If you use Thunderbolt 3, you will lose the camera. Thunderbolt doesn't have the bandwidth needed iirc
Wow at that price. As I would have to buy the full bundle, I don't think I can justify "upgrading my experience" coming from a Rift+Touch. They would have had me if they added wireless built in or a consumer friendly add-on. Even some exciting AAA games from Valve that I might want to experience with the improved FOV, resolution and controllers would have helped. Oh well.
Feel free to show a similarly speced headset with wireless capability at a comparable price - there are none as far as I know
That's simply where VR is -at this high fidelity
The tech is very dependent on visual sensors which is probably why they haven't put them on controllers yet. It's one thing to track the movement of your head, but imagine the motion blur involved from cameras on a controller playing Beat Saber.
Ah. So Virtual Link would be fine though.
OLED has a lot of downsides, black smearing, larger spaced subpixels (screendoor effect) and is expensive. A lot of HMD's are going back to LCD panels actually
The new Rift S uses LCD's for example
Did they state anywhere if the integrated headphones are able to come off? As great as I'm sure they sound I would prefer to use my over the head wireless ones instead.
Also while I doubt anyone has any idea, are we expecting the preorder to go up sometime tomorrow morning Valve time? Or possibly at midnight PST? I just have a feeling I'm going to miss them and be sold out. :/
Also while I doubt anyone has any idea, are we expecting the preorder to go up sometime tomorrow morning Valve time? Or possibly at midnight PST? I just have a feeling I'm going to miss them and be sold out. :/
People are expecting 10am PST tomorrow based on when they usually update the store, but there's no confirmation of that.
Countdown is on Steam's frontpage - as of posting there is 20.5 hrs to go - so 6pm BST?
Gonna throw down for the controllers at least. By far the things I'm most interested in. I do need to upgrade to a better headset, so I'll probably do that in four or five months.
This honestly feels like a misread market much like the steambox. PSVR and Oculus if anything are showing us that it's affordability that is driving sales. To release something so pricey just seems utterly stupid to me. But I guess we'll see how it does commercially.
Prices are insanity, to the degree people might scoff at VR altogether if they get the idea it requires that much of an investment.
Too expensive for what it is. I'll most likely wait for next generation, or buy something cheaper like Oculus. 299€ for controllers and 318 for base stations is just way too much when I can get Oculus and oculus touch for so much less. And where are the games that use the controllers? Why should I buy this now?
Ah sweet! Missed that. So yeah. 10am PST.
- Higher subpixel density/fill-factor, meaning less screen-door effect - particularly important since the headset has a higher FOV than many of the other OLED headsets.
- Backlight strobing being decoupled from the display panel enables 0.330ms image persistence without black smearing like an OLED display.
- No risk of burn-in, though I don't know how much of a concern that is for VR headsets.
Prices individually aren't too bad and see this appealing a lot to people already with the base stations. If the build quality is up to scratch then the controllers are well worth it.
The price for the set doesn't look so great.
Look forward to reading about impressions on the headset itself.
The price for the set doesn't look so great.
Look forward to reading about impressions on the headset itself.
This is way too expensive for what you get in my opinion. I feel like the tech increase->price increase doesn't justify the jump over a CV1 Rift. $350 on sale for everything, for a very similar experience. This is better, but not $650 better and that's disappointing. Just not really that interesting to me I guess.
If the game runs via steam VR then most likely yes, however you still need the basestation.
IF you can, you'd need to buy Lighthouse stations as well as the Index controllers. I kinda doubt the audience for that is there, but I guess I could see SteamVR supporting it.
Not without the base stations, and even then SteamVR doesn't like using two tracking solutions simultaneously.
I don't want to beat a dead horse and go off the rails like I did with RTX, but I feel those Gabe quotes are all useless to me. He did say these things at the roundtable two years ago, but he also said we'd be getting info on their three games before the year was over (2017). Two years later, and they're going to launch their own hardware without even telling us what the title of the supposed 2019 game is.
As for the pricing, I just don't see it. Maybe I'm wrong, but the inside out stuff is good enough for the vast majority of the market (if you're going to ask them to pay that much extra for lighthouse). To me, not being able to come out with a high quality, mass market (ie 500 - 600 range) device means the SteamVR hardware will be dead within a couple years (unless they factored in aggressive price cuts fairly soon).
I could handle a high price, but it needed to have actual next-gen features. The only thing next-gen is the refresh rate. I'm still a little dubious about the FOV (although I'd like to try myself). They're very careful to point out 20 percent higher for the average Vive user. I take this to mean it's less if you're not average (IE you're using a thin faceplate that gets your eyes closer to the Vive lenses).
For the spec - it isn't. Why talk about PSVR 2 in comparison to this? If anything like PSVR, it isn't remotely close to the same fidelity or a "best in class" scenario
Might as well complain about the price of RTX 2080 not being $299 and you'll wait for PS5 while you're driving by
Are they seriously not announcing a game with it? Like it's just a more expensive way to play Superhot again?
I think I might just pick up the controllers and forget the rest. Id like a larger FOV and higher resolution but for that price its pretty insane. Also I can just add the wireless attachment to my current Vive
man I hope PSVR2 will have something similar. O_o
also I've read that Vive's controllers work with WMR headsets...and I love my Samsung Odyssey+..... so if someone can get these controllers work with my headset... man fuck that I would pay the $279 for these bad boys. (or wait for a sale...lol)
but man I can't bring myself to pay $1000 for this whole setup.
LOL so why are you waltzing into this, a discussion about a purposefully high fidelity best in class device, by a company fully intent on that goal, not chasing "mainstream" with their VR hardware. Every page of the announcement and all Valve have done has catered to these enthusiasts
"I'm gonna get the bus, that latest car is too expensive" "I don't have a driving licence. The barrier is HUGE"
Will definitely get the controllers once a local reseller has them available.
Still unsure if I can justify paying $500 for the HMD upgrade. Reduced screen door effect, higher res/fov and 120hz sounds all pretty good to me but will have to wait for reviews on this one.
Still unsure if I can justify paying $500 for the HMD upgrade. Reduced screen door effect, higher res/fov and 120hz sounds all pretty good to me but will have to wait for reviews on this one.
It's just my opinion. Calm down. And from what I'm seeing from VR sales in general and in this thread, my sentiment is shared. $280 for controllers. Controllers. And it isn't even wireless.
It's just my opinion. Calm down. And from what I'm seeing from VR sales in general and in this thread, my sentiment is shared. $280 for controllers. Controllers. And it isn't even wireless.
I'm curious how Valve can confidently say they have a game for 2019 but didn't want to talk about it today. Seems like a very odd move, especially if it's the game people expect.
On the other hand, maybe you want people to absorb the price before doing that.
On the other hand, maybe you want people to absorb the price before doing that.
It's cool that the quality of Steam threads has made the transition to hardware threads.
