Thanks a lot, guys. I can see why that's considered poor sportsmanship and kinda shitty for highly experienced players to deliberately match against newbies and ruin their day.
Kinda like matching me against an EVO class player in Street-fighter
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Valve bans toxic DOTA 2 players till 2038
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Thanks a lot, guys. I can see why that's considered poor sportsmanship and kinda shitty for highly experienced players to deliberately match against newbies and ruin their day.
Kinda like matching me against an EVO class player in Street-fighter
How much a poisonous loser do you have to be to get banned for bad behavior in an online game? lol
What's happening in 2038 tho?
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Needing 100 hours of play to get into ranked? Imagine any other game having that kind of limitation. Dota is a wild game.Linked article said:
It's really really bad now...I can only play one game at a time now.
The line is really low. Like it's hard to get low enough behaviour score without actually just dying or throwing the game on purpose for a long period of time. Likely these people have been near 1 behaviour score for a long time and probably in and out of low priority.
It's really easy to be 10k score if you just don't argue with anyone, you'll go down a little temporarily as people sometimes report you for being the reason for the loss (even if you just played poorly that game and didn't mean to) but that isn't enough to drop you anywhere near low enough to have this happen.
The only people getting this are really fucking toxic.
edit: oh ya I forgot, abandoning matches is the thing that takes you down like 1k behaviour score at a time.
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Don't you know #1 rule of being banned on something is to act like you never did anything wrong.
EternalEnvy was at 1 behaviour score last I saw.
His strategy to get fast games was to queue for support (if you queue support your queue times are near instant as the vast majority of players queue as other roles) and then he would steal the role he wanted and refuse to play the one he chose.
With this update Valve has also added better punishments for doing that, but even before your teamates still all reported you so his behaviour score was terrible.
Wouldn't be surprised if he gets a ban at least on some accounts.
Ah thanks for that, I was thinking it's strange that everyone got specifically 19 years long bans, that explains it.
What's happening in 2038 tho?
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100 hours isn't very long. An average game is probably 35 mins to an hour. that's about a month of play if you play 3 games per day.
no. We are talking bottom 0.001 of the toxic community, people that get constatly reported
Lmao that's not even enough to learn the basics. I have over 7k hours and still learning.
I have played this game since it's launch on steam. 1696 hours on it 5-6k mmr ranked matches were the worst experience I had in gaming and I have played OW/Siege. I still love the game but I only follow it in Majors/TI now.
100 hours are not enough to master one hero and there are 117 heroes.
That's less than 1 hour per hero and one would expect that you know the skills of heroes before you enter ranked games.
Otherwise it's like wanting to play chess without knowing how all the chess pieces can move.
No kidding. I played non stop from dota 1 5.84c to dota 2 until around 2013-4. That must have been around 10 years of playing, and yet I tried getting back into it this year and there is just too much new stuff to learn. When I stopped, there weren't those little skill trees for every hero and I just couldn't be bothered to relearn all the optimum combos for every single hero. Also, gazillion new items that I didn't know and, therefore, didn't understand how to use or incorporate in my usual builds.
There is simply nothing quite like it. The amount of play time you need just for the game to become "playable" is mind boggling.
Yea it sucks. Fighting games can be pretty notorious for smurfs. Dragonball FighterZ when I last played it seemed to have a lot of green rank players with 10 wins 0 losses etc and looking at the message boards I wasn't the only one who thought so.
Mastery can take a lifetime in anything, but the hurdle to get familiarity down seems nuts.
Yeah I'm just in awe at how willing people are to subject themselves to such a black hole of time.
You can easily sink massive hours into any competitive game if you want to excel and become really good at it.
I guess the same goes for Dota where you can play casually unranked for fun or try to master it in ranked (and fail doing so).
Burden of knowledge is a well known problem without a solution so far for these old Mobas. I could easily get into Heroes of The Storm due to it being far simpler mechanically and to knowing the basics of the genre from dota, but the reverse would simply be impossible to do. There is just too much stuff to learn before you become minimally competent at the game. I'm not even talking about going pro, I mean having a basic knowledge of every mechanic, hero and item of the game.
The problem is that dota demands massive hours, not for mastery, but for basic competence at the game.
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It takes you around 10 games to learn the basic of the game but the game is like 10x more complex that League for example.
To really learn and play at a high level it takes a lot of years. One of the reasons that the game is not pulling milions of players every year.
that's amazing. god I wish League had a conduct score system... or at least a behavior system that actually worked.
the other day I was in a unranked game with a username like "stupidnicker" who quickly threw in "how about you shut the fuck up r-word" after someone asked if we could try to make the game quick.
the other day I was in a unranked game with a username like "stupidnicker" who quickly threw in "how about you shut the fuck up r-word" after someone asked if we could try to make the game quick.
EE is a dick but I'd probably make a smurf account or just drop dota if I had to spend 30 mins looking for a game.
Better behavior scores also result in faster queueing times, or in EEs case: be a dick and wait 30 minutes for each game.
Try to cheat the queue system and wait even longer or get banned. Sounds fair to me.
Dota subreddit is hilarious right now. People looking into the profiles of complaining banned players and they are all horrible
Trust us that's far from awful. Its an enjoyable learning journey. That's what great about Dota for me.
If you gets bored of a character, then learn a new one.
Yeah, I was gonna say is there a reason it's 19 years specifically? (i.e., "until you grow up.") Because that's hilarious, if so.