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Vaginas, pheromones and TikTok: what is the strange new trend of ‘vabbing’?
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This isn't new. When i was a teenager there were these constant rumors that women smeared their vagina fluids behind their ears. i don't know if anyone actually did it though. It was more of a drunk joke.
well i am no doctor but doesnt like every animal (mammals at least) choose their partners by smelling their genitals?
Always been insanely curious how revealing a study with gay and straight men and proper controls would turn out to be, cuz I'm just so profoundly not into it
I am not going to lie, I am not overjoyed by the trend of rubbing vagina juice on elbows, and really hope it doesn't catch on, but that "Great Wall of 'Vagina'" linked in the OP is pretty cool.
I have sometimes been self conscious about my labia, so it's nice to just see a wall of 400 different labia and realise "oh, vaginas are very diverse and mine is fine". That project needs more eyes on it.
The secretions thing though... Eh...
I have sometimes been self conscious about my labia, so it's nice to just see a wall of 400 different labia and realise "oh, vaginas are very diverse and mine is fine". That project needs more eyes on it.
The secretions thing though... Eh...
Are we reading the same paper?
Which is why is published in a Q4 journal.
Surely. Imagine if I just smeared my cummies all over a daddies lip warmer.
Lmao. Good luck with that.
Folks, no need to wipe ya crotches on yourselves. Brush your teeth and wash your feet and things will work out.
Folks, no need to wipe ya crotches on yourselves. Brush your teeth and wash your feet and things will work out.
Name quote.
Also no that's not what it meant. Twitter and research huh.
It's not patriarchal, it's patriarchal to assume they're doing it to attract men. I'm pretty sure this trend is intersectional. Even if just be default due to statistics of the ratio to cis-het to queer it's people of varying sexualities and genders doing this.
the hetties are not okay
seriously feel so sorry for straight women lmao thank fuck i'm a lesbian
edit: the only ppl on tiktok/twitter i've seen talk about this have been straight so if it's actually intersectional i haven't seen any of that & hope it doesn't change because this shit is WAY too desperate lol
seriously feel so sorry for straight women lmao thank fuck i'm a lesbian
edit: the only ppl on tiktok/twitter i've seen talk about this have been straight so if it's actually intersectional i haven't seen any of that & hope it doesn't change because this shit is WAY too desperate lol
yeah.. if I knew you use vag juice on dates I leave you before the food
We don't even need to try to be oppressive anymore. Anyway this practise goes way way back.
It's not that strange. I'm more likely to stick around if I like the smell of your vagina versus not. Is that not how pheromones work?
But I think they're missing the point a bit. It only works if I… actually like what I'm smelling. If I don't, then 🤷🏾♂️
But I think they're missing the point a bit. It only works if I… actually like what I'm smelling. If I don't, then 🤷🏾♂️
p = .074
"eh" indeed.
Also, while there were 100 subjects (i.e., 50 per condition), there were only 10 stimuli. Since they had to rate those 10 faces on a 5-point Likert scale, one would assume that they had selected either two pictures per "rank" (i.e., two pictures rated 1, two pictures rated 2, etc...) or all faces ranked as "average". Obviously this "objective" rating would have had to have been done before this study.
I haven't had a look at Jütte & Grammer's 1997 study (the one from which these pictures were taken) but 10 faces is definitely too few... if they picked only "objectively average" faces, you wouldn't be able to assess the impact on lower-ranked or higher-ranked faces (one could assume that the effect is not linear across all attractiveness levels) and if they picked an heterogenous set of faces you simply don't have enough samples per "rank".
tik tok is a trend that everyone arround the globe got stuck with it like their own opportunities to be more popular to the whole world... the point of this is to have everyday challenges like games to force the viewers to pay the live creator to get paid from the application.... Dunno why that happens but whoever did that application, i see only negative points instead of positive points... As of Vaginas and pheromones i don't have any proper answer about them....
Depends on your level of scientific rigour.
The abstract states that the men inhaling copulins rated women as on average more attractive than did the men not inhaling copulins, and while this is true, it's also a very common way to save face/misdirect when your study fails to reach statistical significance (this is why they put the word "trending" in there).
But there's pretty much always a difference in the average values between two groups in a published study (weird if the results in both groups were identical, right?) This doesn't mean that the difference is statistically significant, and that's what you want in order to be published (a p-value of less than or equal to 0.05).
The p-value for female attractiveness in this case was 0.074, which means that there's a 7.4 % chance of getting a difference of this magnitude even if there were no real, underlying difference between the groups (a false positive).
The only measurement in this study that achieved statistical significance was the men's rating of their own attractiveness (p = 0.042). Meaning that they thought more highly of themselves, rather than the women they were rating.
Even better, I found this sentence in that paper.
That's a true jaded academic right there, you just write the paper anyway and throw in a sentence that says "by the way, this is all pointless".
Wait for famous people doing this.
"Eau de Hemsworth, fragance for men"
Also wait until Belle Delphine hears of this.
This was a sub-plot in an episode of UK comedy Raised by Wolves a few years ago. Episode was called "The Monroe Technique" after it.
Read more at: https://tvshowtranscripts.ourboard.org/viewtopic.php?f=257&t=25726
Read more at: https://tvshowtranscripts.ourboard.org/viewtopic.php?f=257&t=25726
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Desperate men who can´t get a date - ¨Shit I gotta start hitting the gym, change my look, start earning more cash with a better career, get a dog for my dating profile pics, move to a place where I get more matches, etc.¨
Desperate women who can´t get a date - ¨I´ll just have to use my vagina juices as a super perfume so men can get an even better reception on the pheromones¨
Desperate women who can´t get a date - ¨I´ll just have to use my vagina juices as a super perfume so men can get an even better reception on the pheromones¨
And yet I've never heard of a trend of men spreading their semen over their erogenous zones to attract people. Where is that getting 37 million views or going on for decades? The fact that there are vaginal products implying the natural vaginal scent is disgusting but not for men, tells you a lot. I'm team desperate, especially if this is designed to attract others rather than as empowerment.
I've read that study and it seems pretty weak as evidence, which they admit to and say not to extrapolate it. Although that won't stop people from jumping to conclusions like these Tiktoks. They can't even conclude as copulins being pheromones, but pheromone science is still quite dodgy. Also they didn't test it on women or lesbians and brought up worries about possible rape or sexual assault because according to the results, men become less cooperative and more competitive.
I've read that study and it seems pretty weak as evidence, which they admit to and say not to extrapolate it. Although that won't stop people from jumping to conclusions like these Tiktoks. They can't even conclude as copulins being pheromones, but pheromone science is still quite dodgy. Also they didn't test it on women or lesbians and brought up worries about possible rape or sexual assault because according to the results, men become less cooperative and more competitive.
Human studies have shown synthetic copulin exposure increases men's testosterone levels and decreases their cooperative behaviors (Steinbach, Oberzaucher, & Grammer, 2012). Thus, women may be at a greater risk of direct aggressive behaviors perpetrated by men during ovulation. And indeed studies show that women may be aware of this increased risk. Women are more risk aversive at high conception risk than low conception risk (Chavanne & Gallup, 1998). Women at high conception risk, but not low conception risk, display greater handgrip strength in response to sexual assault vignettes but not in response to control vignettes (Petralia & Gallup, 2002). This could have implications for domestic violence and date rape and would be an interesting area for future research.
There has been no research looking at the effects of copulins on other women. Future research questions may include whether women show greater intrasexual aggression and antimate poaching behaviors when exposed to copulins. Future research may also look at the sensitivity of homosexual women to copulins.
Unless if you're eating semen-based dishes.
Interesting point. I would say however, that it doesn't work that way. Humans (men in this example) are likely genetically programmed in a way to be attracted to multiple partners over the course of a lifetime, not just one. So it would only make sense that most men would be attracted to lots of different kinds of smells, and not just a select few. Would be an interesting study though (if it hasn't been done already?) to test how different pheromones work and the effects they have on subjects (assuming there ARE even chemical "differences" and it's not just the same thing that is doing the actual "work")
Unless if you're eating semen-based dishes.
does this count as cannibalism
Yes if you count sperm as living beings. Another fun word is autophagy.
If this can be a used for a story about ancient Persia and Darius's rise to the throne then why not medieval ladies too.
https://thehistorianshut.com/2017/07/04/the-odd-ascension-of-darius-the-great-to-the-persian-throne/
What a horrible day to have eyes.Unless if you're eating semen-based dishes.
There's also an Australian project called the Labia Library that has the same intent- I heard of it first mentioned as something doctors can provide to patients when discussing a cosmetic labioplasty.
we already are, every single human is surrounded by a cloud of bacteria, viruses and fungi. criminal forensics even takes this into account (iirc), suspects can at least in theory be identified based on all the microbes they leave behind (everyone of us has a distinct microbiome).
if you are near people, you are swimming in their microbes by default. no way to avoid it. we are basically just vessels for tiny organisms to inhabit and procreate and evolve in lol. and we shed them everywhere, all surfaces around us are covered in them.
This is more like using a nasty weapon coating in a From game.
You could never do a study if this works. Too many variables that can't be calculated. Pheromones are real but confidence, luck, and so many other things blow up any type of experiment.
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