Should the person who sabotaged 500+ doses of a life saving vaccine in a severe scarcity at the height of a pandemic not be facing criminal charges? Will you even bother to return for an expansion on your post?
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Vaccines intentionally removed from refrigerator at Grafton hospital. More than 500 doses of the vaccine had to be thrown out.
- Thread starter Loudninja
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I reckon hospital cleaners work damn hard at the moment (or any moment) to be fair.
Oh of course. Apologies if it came off that I was implying otherwise.
Just, this person has no business being anywhere near a hospital in any capacity.
For sure, I get what you mean, sorry if that came off as snarky!
That is a big yikes.
Anyone who does that deserve to lose their medical license.
My bad, misunderstood. Yeah very very dumb. I believe they no longer work there(but still have their nursing license)
Agreed. This person should face pretty serious criminal charges.
All good I probably worded my first post badly. And good to hear; misuse of medical equipment drives me crazy.
We just rebrand Antivaxxers at this point as Pro-Coviders, maybe that will throw a wrench into their horseshit fueled agenda.
People on here don't even know the full story and are already jumping to conclusions calling for blood. The only information we know is that the person intentionally took them out of the fridge and as a result of being left out the vaccines were ruined. We haven't been informed of the motive of why they were removed from the fridge.
yeah either way they really shouldn't be working at a hospital
absolute best case scenario here is maybe you could make a reasonable argument they shouldn't face criminal charges on top of that
It's still not ok if you just chose not to take them. Vaccines are a group effort and someone deciding not to take them still has a negative impact on the whole population.
Gonna be really tough to find a country that's 100% on board with vaccines, lol.
People do this all the time. Don't overestimate the intelligence, morality, or diligence of folks that work in healthcare. "Heroes" is apt, but so is "human."
People opening and closing drug fridges unnecessarily disrupts the temperature these medicines are kept at. Some need to be set at very specific ranges to maintain efficacy. But healthcare workers, like everyone else, often "just this once" many times over.
There are going to be some amount of ineffective vaccines out there, both from intentional and unintentional damages, that will be given and distributed. We're lucky that these few hundred were caught before administration.
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The the anti-vaxxer mindset is the reason we're going to take more years than necessary to properly combat Covid and turn it into something akin to the flu. These people already believe, "it's just a bad flu." Their callousness continues with their lack of care for those at risk, because they just want to be able to go out and not care about their fellow citizens. And when you try to talk to them, they throw the stats back in your face that not enough people have died to take it serious. Patriots my ass.
You might have missed the update. News was updated to be intentional sabotage, and cops are involved
Yeah, this is where I'm at. Let them pay the full price for each of those 570 doses, plus damages for any vaccinations that couldn't take place at the assigned time due to this action. I would also consider them losing their nursing license for some time.
That seems like a completely justifiable and fair reaction.
Definitely.
The tracking chips in the vaccine double as a signal booster so that helps with the 5g signal.
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So even after an internal investigation and concluding it was human error era wants this person thrown in jail.
Intentionally removed doesn't mean they are anti Vaccine. Wait for more details before being judge jury and executioner.
Intentionally removed doesn't mean they are anti Vaccine. Wait for more details before being judge jury and executioner.
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Do these dumbasses think they haven't installed cameras in front of these vaccine fridges because they 100% have.
Authorities have been informed and now wait for more details. Let the authorities do their job and go from there.
Terrorism. Let's just call it what it is. It's terrorism.
Lock that cunt up
EDIT: "intentional" and "human era" are mutually exclusive. The article writer needs to clean that shit up.
Either it was done with intent to destroy the vaccine or it wasn't. That needs to be made a lot more clear.
Either it was done with intent to destroy the vaccine or it wasn't. That needs to be made a lot more clear.
im guessing it's some nut job anti-vaxxer who will view jail time as martyrdom and bio terrorism as moral.
I think one of the saddest things for me was realizing how many of my coworkers are anti vaccine. A large number also ignored COVID precautions in their personal lives. Medical assistants all the way to MDs. Really disheartening.
I agree. You'd be amazed at the amount of vile, untrustworthy and downright dangerous people in the healthcare system that I've either met outside my own treatment, or in my own experiences and/or read stores about. US Healthcare is bad as it is, and people like this POS only make it worse. I say fucking jail them. Immediately.
Good thing the Pfizer vaccine requires temperatures that would ruin any food placed inside.
Vaccines intentionally removed from hospital refrigerator, employee fired
The person who left 57 vials of the Moderna vaccine out of a pharmacy refrigerator at Aurora Medical Center- Grafton did so intentionally, Advocate Aurora Health said.
www.wisn.com
It's on the previous page but this has a clip of the news story after it was updated after the OP was posted, I'll just grab from the transcript there on the website about the update of intentional sabotage
The number that's been thrown around is $35 per dose of the Moderna, which is the most expensive of the 3 approved in the west. ~$20k in raw damages if that's the case.
Yeah, I had to go to my usual physician some months ago, to get diagnosed with tennis elbow. I was of course wearing my mask in the waiting room, and his nurses had them on as well. Then, they put me into the "little" waiting room. My doc comes in, sees me wearing my mask, and said "Oh, you don't have to wear that in here."
...I'm not going to go to that doctor anymore.
I should note that my wife is a medical professional working in dermatology, and she sees upwards of 30-40 patients per day. Those patients can't always keep their masks on, because the skin condition might be in the area that the mask covers. So...I make sure to wear one, because of her constant contact with people (and because it's the right thing to do).
Had the same with my doctor. Here is what she said: "Are you afraid of corona? Because I'm not, you don't need that mask here"
Well after that I went to a new one.
The news clip says that the hospital says that the employee "purposefully sabotaged" the doses.
Vaccines intentionally removed from hospital refrigerator, employee fired
The person who left 57 vials of the Moderna vaccine out of a pharmacy refrigerator at Aurora Medical Center- Grafton did so intentionally, Advocate Aurora Health said.
Who hasn't mistakenly purposely intentionally by accident sabotaged a vaccine though
I got my ADN, I didn't pay for it, I actually got fee waivers from the state and charged my hospital for the books I always returned.
I can tell you this, I didn't learn shit in those 2 years.
The press release and breaking article are super ambiguous so it's difficult to say. As others have said, intentionally removing the vaccine from refrigeration isn't necessarily the same thing as intentionally destroying the vaccine. The explanation could just be that the person involved is profoundly fucking stupid (e.g. didn't realize the vaccine was temp controlled, didn't realize what the vaccine actually was, intended to put the vaccine back in refrigeration but got distracted/ forgot, etc).
I guess we won't know more until local news runs a more detailed story. It'll be interesting to see if this person gets prosecuted. Regardless of the reason, firing their ass is definitely the right call.
Edit: Ah, okay, the news clip is calling it intentional sabotage. That makes things a lot clearer.
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If the person did not have ill intent taking out the vaccines, wouldn't that be human error? Intent implies they knew what they were doing. Either way, dumb as hell. The police conference should clear things up.
The worst thing about anti-vaxxers is that their decision not to get vaccinated can still harm others. My wife and I spoke to a woman yesterday who works in retail and she has lupus and was told by her doctor not to get the Covid vaccine. People like her need the rest of us to get vaccinated and help along herd immunity so that we can eventually eradicate this thing entirely but anti-vaxxers will keep Covid going for years.