Someone's going to get sued.
Guy had better have a backup plan for when he loses his restaurant.
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Utah restaurant bans service dogs; Owner knows about ADA, but "doesn't care"
- Thread starter Syriel
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chances are you can't have an allergy free restaurant in the first place.
They're service dogs... the one you're thinking of is an emotional support animal.
I'd hope so. Might as well refuse service to wheelchair users, that utter bellend
Service dogs are service dogs. Read the OP, they are obviously not emotional support dogs.
That's my hometown too. :/ Fuck that establishment. Unless this dog is a "emotional support" dog and not an actual one?
Want to elaborate or you just leaving it at that and opening yourself up for an inevitable dogpile?
They should have banned emotional support animals instead, that's the actual scam one
Service dogs are real and serve an actual purpose
Service dogs are real and serve an actual purpose
This is the other huge problem with the emotional support animal scam, now every time there is an article about service animals people have that little doubt in their minds about whether these are trained and registered legal support animals or someone's pet with fake papers. Argh.
Sounds like they're real service dogs and not "emotional support animals".
Owner wants an animal free restaurant and provides outside seating and takeaway. That's enough.
I keep writing and deleting posts, hard to find the right words.
Simply put it's horrifying how casually you're stating that you don't believe in disabled people's rights. Baffling.
ADA are civil laws not criminal so police are not the ones to enforce it, you have to go to civil state or federal court and sue to get the owner to follow the ADA rules. More likely the social media attention will turn into TV/press nightmares for the owners.
Definitely a lot of missed info flying back and forth between the owner and customers, the article says this too: "The owner said on the phone that his restaurant is his responsibility, and he described a past incident where a dog attacked a customer. " so I can sorta understand why the owner might be really, really reluctant to ever let a dog into the restaurant again. Yeah, I think most of us know service dogs are very different than regular dogs and how much their owners depend on them but i'd be surprised if a lot of people really know or understand it.
I already see the business being review bombed on yelp and google so I'd expect something soon from them.
Definitely a lot of missed info flying back and forth between the owner and customers, the article says this too: "The owner said on the phone that his restaurant is his responsibility, and he described a past incident where a dog attacked a customer. " so I can sorta understand why the owner might be really, really reluctant to ever let a dog into the restaurant again. Yeah, I think most of us know service dogs are very different than regular dogs and how much their owners depend on them but i'd be surprised if a lot of people really know or understand it.
I already see the business being review bombed on yelp and google so I'd expect something soon from them.
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Please educate me if I'm wrong and if this is a thing outside the US, too, but this really confuses me.
How does a dog help a mute autistic child? I've only ever heard of service dogs for blind people to allow them to move around safely. Is this more akin to those dogs people are allowed to take in the plane in the US for emotional support?
How does a dog help a mute autistic child? I've only ever heard of service dogs for blind people to allow them to move around safely. Is this more akin to those dogs people are allowed to take in the plane in the US for emotional support?
Great, so we're just accepting sectioning off people with disabilities that require them to have a service animal to outside then...
these are ADA laws they have to abide by.
see above.
Have people started review bombing the restaurant on Yelp and Google yet?
Edit: They have https://www.yelp.com/biz/bombay-grill-ogden
Edit: They have https://www.yelp.com/biz/bombay-grill-ogden
Ah but humans are fine, got it.
Dude what the fuck is wrong with you.
No, it's not, and its getting to be a real problem that people are constantly confusing the two. Service dogs and other service animals are specially trained to aid in aspects of a person's life that they're either incapable of doing themselves, need assistance with, or in special cases are there to essentially act as a life saver when something goes wrong (breathing problems, heart issues, seizures, etc.). The training itself is very intensive and basically leads to the dog being registered as a medical tool by the end of it.
This site has some interesting bits about what constitutes the need for one, but it's not a fully comprehensive list. Still worth a read if you're genuinely interested int he subject.
Emotional support animals, on the other hand, are not trained and are essentially just a way around the rules to let your pet go wherever you do. For issues like anxiety there are specially trained service animals who help with that sort of thing. But a lot of people don't bother with that and just get their regular pet registered as an emotional support animal instead.
Ogden really that bad? I never heard anything like this before.
I'm willing to bet there's a pretty heavy dose of sarcasm in that post lol
I wonder if this will have the opposite effect like those articles about restaurants banning kids and then public ends up supporting their stance.
With that said, owner will probably get sued if the customer has proof the animal is a real service animal.
With that said, owner will probably get sued if the customer has proof the animal is a real service animal.
I honestly cant tell anymore. Humans fucking suck so it wouldnt surprise me.
Read his other posts in this thread. That guy really thinks people with service dogs should just be discriminated against freely.
If the owner is Indian I'm suspecting a major cultural clash, as dogs are usually considered dirty in that region. He'll learn the hard way I suppose.
I think the point is that people will often claim an animal is a service animal without it actually being certified, trained, etc.
Dunno what the repercussions for this would be. If he has outside seating and family's with service animals are requested/required to sit outside, depending on the word of the law he may not be in violation.