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Baccus

Banned
Dec 4, 2018
5,307
I think so. Of course there are more structural blueprints of the cathedral available, but Ubisoft has one kind of info that most other models don't: materials.
 

Rotobit

Editor at Nintendo Wire
Verified
Oct 27, 2017
10,196
nah they'll use Dream Drop Distance and make it lower polygon for better structural integrity

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Hugare

Banned
Aug 31, 2018
1,853
I was thinking the same thing yesterday: "at least I can visit it virtually in Unity"

Thank god for it's amazing uncompromised graphics
 

Allforce

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,136
User warned: thread derailment by spreading misinformation about moderation
Someone literally got banned here yesterday for suggesting using AC as a way to revisit Notre Dame.
 

Corralx

Member
Aug 23, 2018
1,176
London, UK
There's plenty of much more accurate 3D laser scans of Notre Dame (and every important/historical building for what is worth).
AC: Unity is not even close to be the most detailed.

References are not missing to properly rebuild Notre Dame, I wouldn't worry about that.
 

Ferrs

Avenger
Oct 26, 2017
18,829
The building got already laser scanned (same with a lot of historical buildings just in case). There's probably nothing the game can offer to help.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,363
with mrs. glitches
Why would you think that a model from a video game would be needed for one of the most famous buildings in the world? You didn't think the preservation and historic societies would have extensive records about it?
 

Marin-Lune

Member
Oct 27, 2017
609
OP, I'm sure you mean well and have good intentions, but... really?
This is/was the most visited monument in Europe and had been constantly studied, renovated, etc. for centuries. Surely even without knowing a thing about monuments preservation you'd assume there's more than a wonky videogame 3d model with highly suspicious geometry and proportions, right???
 

Linus815

Member
Oct 29, 2017
19,775
OP, I'm sure you mean well and have good intentions, but... really?
This is/was the most visited monument in Europe and had been constantly studied, renovated, etc. for centuries. Surely even without knowing a thing about monuments preservation you'd assume there's more than a wonky videogame 3d model with highly suspicious geometry and proportions, right???

I agree with you, but, it's not wonky at all, like, it's actually one of the most obsessively detailed buildings in any videogame currently.
 
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Dantero

Member
Jan 23, 2018
971
OP, I'm sure you mean well and have good intentions, but... really?
This is/was the most visited monument in Europe and had been constantly studied, renovated, etc. for centuries. Surely even without knowing a thing about monuments preservation you'd assume there's more than a wonky videogame 3d model with highly suspicious geometry and proportions, right???


I thought that there would be models but not so detailed. Guess I was wrong :) still the model is pretty good and accessible.
 

ASEdouard

Banned
Nov 28, 2017
233
If Notre-Dame was a less famous and important place, sure! But this is the most visited building in Europe. They have detailed info on it ;).
 

SPRidley

Member
Oct 25, 2017
8,234
The scale of Notre Dame in ACU is not correct. Same as most of the historic buildings in the series.
But thats done in purpose to scale them to the game world, its still and incredible work.

Laser scans exists and are 100% accurate, so theres no need to use a videogame.

Someone literally got banned here yesterday for suggesting using AC as a way to revisit Notre Dame.

No, he said it in a way were it sounded like a joke. It was more akin to "at least we still can visit Notre Dame on AC" but sounding even worse.
Ih he had said, "im going to play this afternoon ACU to remember how magnificent it was even if not perfect" he wouldnt have been ban and people wouldnt have reacted badly at his post.
Its the same as saying, and I did, watching some Notre Damme docs as a remembrance.
 

0451

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,190
Canada
It would be fine if optimization wasn't an issue. For the sake of getting it to run at a playable framerate and loading, there are likely pieces of missing geometry and/or low poly parts out of the player's sight that would make this difficult.
 

Phellps

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,808
That article is the most "muh games" thing I've seen in a while. To think out of all specialists and groups dedicated to archiving history around the world, Ubisoft was going to be the one to save the damn thing? Come on. It's most likely not even totally accurate.
 
Oct 25, 2017
16,568
That article is the most "muh games" thing I've seen in a while. To think out of all specialists and groups dedicated to archiving history around the world, Ubisoft was going to be the one to save the damn thing? Come on. It's most likely not even totally accurate.
lmao. agreed.

people think a kideo game would be better than people doing actual archival work. smh.

"soldier field was burned down. get that copy of Madden 17"
 

Aurongel

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 28, 2017
7,065
We have laser scans of these buildings that provide far higher fidelity information on these structures that is actually accurate to scale.. Of all the sources of architectural information we have, this article is seriously asserting that a piece of software from Ubisoft would be best equipped to aid in the reconstruction?

Give me a break, this sounds like an amateur journalist exploiting a recent tragedy by weakly linking it to a popular video game and writing a lame article about it.
 

floridaguy954

Member
Oct 29, 2017
3,631
OP, I'm sure you mean well and have good intentions, but... really?
This is/was the most visited monument in Europe and had been constantly studied, renovated, etc. for centuries. Surely even without knowing a thing about monuments preservation you'd assume there's more than a wonky videogame 3d model with highly suspicious geometry and proportions, right???
Lmao at that wonky line.

Ubisoft is one of the only developers out there that have the most detailed and researched historic building models.
 

ResetGreyWolf

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,427
Yeah like others have posted, Europeans have put a lot of effort into documenting our most famous landmarks in millimeter precision, so there are other archives that are easier to use for reference. This isn't the first time Notre Dame has been on fire anyway -- architects know what they're doing, they'll be able to restore it, don't worry :)

Someone literally got banned here yesterday for suggesting using AC as a way to revisit Notre Dame.

Getting banned for nothing is classic ResetEra lol
 

Eoin

Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,103
For most major historical buildings there'll have been some efforts made in the past to capture the detail of the building, as accurately as possible, based on the best technology available at the time. This means that it's vanishingly unlikely that the most detailed model of any major landmark will be from a video game (for anything that's world famous that requires constant maintenance, those chances reduce to zero).

Ubisoft's achievement in creating a perceptually accurate, highly detailed 3D model and making it available to millions of people as part of a mass-market product shouldn't be downplayed. It is the leading expression of architectural beauty in any video game (I guess arguably, but...only barely arguably) as well as a spectacular technical achievement. It is also totally plausible that the restoration work will double/triple/quadruple check details using a variety of sources and that AC: Unity (or, more specifically, the material used during Unity's creation) might be one of those sources. It also shouldn't be up-played though - when it comes to accurate modelling of large, historically significant real-world objects, video games won't generally be at the pinnacle (or very near it).
 

Yarbskoo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,980
As far as I'm concerned, most historic structures should have highly detailed virtual replicas created and available to the public.

Just in case.
 

CopperPuppy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,636
Someone literally got banned here yesterday for suggesting using AC as a way to revisit Notre Dame.
Wait, what? Really???? Why?

In any event, there are better references to use for restoration, OP. That said, Unity's virtual representation of the cathedral is still a treasure, and unfortunately now even more so in light of yesterday's horrific tragedy.
 

Tyaren

Character Artist
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
24,770
They have much higher quality and detail plans of every important, historical building than the models used in video games. ;)