I don't want to see a single one of them trumpeting the infrastructure investments in their districts. It was hypocritical when Republicans did it with the covid stimulus, it'll be hypocritical if they do the same. And Ayanna is my congresswoman so I'm especially annoyed!
Why? What's the point at this juncture? Get primaried and brag you didn't vote for it?
Regardless of what happens with BBB, the infrastructure bill is becoming law and they're the only Dems in all of Congress who will have not put their names to it. It's a lame stunt. And there are about 90something other progressives in the House who didn't put on the same show.
I mean, there's still other points of leverage.
They adhered to the agreement that had repeatedly been put forth in front of them. Both go together. When the moderates kill BBB they can at least go to their base and say we knew what was coming and fought for BBB.
If being pissed makes them lose all reasonable strategy then … welp, ok.
They can explain it however they want, I just don't want to see them try to take credit for any infrastructure money coming into their districts. House reps are there, first and foremost, to vote on legislation and they used theirs to vote against it.
What are you on about?
I meant those who thought BBB had a chance. Guess we should protest harder.
I don't know, I guess I just have a little more faith than that. Again, they're not Republicans. They're dicks, but I can at least believe that they'll negotiate in good faith, even on stuff they're not entirely on board with. Now that we've cleared the "maybe they just walk away with nothing" threshold, idk, I can see it.
They don't even need to bother pretending to negotiate now.
Passing bills in and of itself is not good. REPS can do that also. BIF Passes. alot of people in this thread are cheering weakening there own position. It's infuriating.
.reasoning with fascists............. I guess I drank the koo aid.
I guess my big distinction here is... I really do think that Manchin is operating on a wacky-ass moral framework of his own and that he really is trying to do what he sees as negotiating. And that once we've cleared the Senate hurdles, the House moderates will get in line. Sinema is the wildcard, but given that we just saw her move on prescription drug pricing, I think she might be terminally weird rather than in actual bad faith as such. Still should definitely get primary'd, we already know that you can be a moderate senator from AZ without being as obnoxious as she is, but yeah.
I mean you're still defending Kanye's music in the thread despite him being a terrible person. Pots and kettles and all that.
Okay, okay, I told him to dial it down, I'm telling y'all to too. Ignore list is there for a reason, people. It is not a sign of weakness to say "I don't want to deal with this person."
Understood. Though I hesitate to use the ignore button, as I don't want to silence anyone and am happy to listen to other opinions as long as they aren't drive by insults and actually engaging.
There's more to the US Congress than The Squad. And if they voted no on this, that was incredibly petty and stupid.
As an EV owner, the last thing to keep me having 2 EVs is more chargers in rural areas I like to vacation in.
Legislating local EV infrastructure is tricky for the same reason national zoning law changes would be tricky; it's traditionally been something left up to municipalities, and congress sticking its oar in would put them in weird legal waters even absent a hostile supreme court. Increasing funding should probably do the trick in most places.
I'll post my face lol not afraid of that. I thought we were on the same side but I've learned that order is more important to some than justice so celebrate the "victory"? lets get BBB going. With our leverage. However. .
