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US PoliEra 2020 |OT8| Do it for Her
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Likewise. I'm new to this whole discord thing, but if there's a separate community I definitely wouldn't mind that.
I think he used to be republican but is now an independent.
more evidence that wisconsin's voting population is being held hostage.
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I'm guessing a 8 to 10 difference won't translate to a big EC victory, just blue states with big population getting more blue?
Kind of what happened in 2016.
Kind of what happened in 2016.
I think everyone figured that Biden would do better in the Rust Belt than Hillary did. Not sure that everyone suspected he would do this well. No way that Trump has a chance in those states if Biden is winning that much of the non-college white vote, considering his strengths in other areas. That is Trump's base he is just taking a big chomp out of.
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You mean an 8-10% national lead for Biden? That would absolutely lead to an EC wipeout for Trump.
this tracks with the close polling in iowa and lead in ohio recently.
Not likely. Biden is up with white voters nationally which should reduce the PV/EC gap.
Trying not to get my hopes up, but that would be so, so fucking satisfying.
I think that will be some of it for sure. Polls are showing the closest races are going to be NC, GA, and maybe even OH. That isn't good for Trump, he needs to win all of those and then some.
This would make me unbelievably happy.
As for Biden's Rust belt numbers, it sure seems like Black Americans bailed out White Americans again when they went for Biden in the primary. I was firmly on the Bernie train, but it's not like I wasn't gonna vote for the eventual nominee regardless.
The polls seem so steady lately that I wonder if a debate is even going to make a difference at this point. Trump has shown he just does not do well when he's not in his political bubble. He's been attacking Biden for being senile so if Biden can appear competent I think a good number of people will be pleasantly surprised with Biden.
With Trump on the ticket, I'm not sure Harrison can pull it off - unless there's a lot of ticket splitting which, color me skeptical. Any other year and Graham would be toast. Still, he's in my top 3 who I want to see get their reward - to quote vile Mitch.
So here's hoping.
So here's hoping.
'Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up': Obama
3 debates to go.
Same here. Put that shit into my veins. Graham needs to go down for pure catharsis.
Yeah, I won't stop being nervous until the election is over. However, I don't think Trump isn't something Biden can handle. He just needs a strong debate performance in the first one and I think he's set. Chris Wallace is going to be tough on both and Trump won't have a crowd (and his planted supporters) to feed off of.
I told you all he was going to come up with an excuse why he won't debate. Even if Biden somehow agreed to this ridiculous demand, does anyone believe Dr. 239 would administer a drug test on Trump? LOL
Trump set the bar so low for "sleepy AND on performance enhancing drugs Joe" that he fucked himself.
Biden should just hold a town hall if Trump refuses to show up.
Trump set the bar so low for "sleepy AND on performance enhancing drugs Joe" that he fucked himself.
Biden should just hold a town hall if Trump refuses to show up.
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Underrated get imo. He clearly prior was republican light, at least. Rip XFL tho with this endorsement.
Anyone worrying about Biden in the first debate, keep these things in mind:
1. Trump has not been doing ANY prep work for this debate.
2. Trump has been spreading the idea that Biden has dementia, which he does not and that will become abundantly clear on Tuesday.
3. Incumbent presidents often do poorly in their first debate (see Obama v. Romney in 2012).
4. Trump is Trump.
1. Trump has not been doing ANY prep work for this debate.
2. Trump has been spreading the idea that Biden has dementia, which he does not and that will become abundantly clear on Tuesday.
3. Incumbent presidents often do poorly in their first debate (see Obama v. Romney in 2012).
4. Trump is Trump.
I've been watching a lot of 2016 debates and I'm not certain Biden will do well against him. The constant interjections, insults, lying et al. If they can force Trump to speak about policy, then maybe Biden might do decently. I do believe if somehow Biden has a strong debate then it should calm concerns.
I think he'll do better in the townhall setting of the second debate, as that's his bread and butter.
Case Western is allowing a crowd for Tuesday's debate of an undetermined size, so Trump will be able to feed off them, unfortunately.
Debates rarely have much of an impact, and they seem particularly less likely to in this election given how remarkably stable it has been.
Yes, and voter suppression is really designed to target the intersection of poor people and people of color, so whenever Biden makes gains among white or affluent demos, those are votes that are less likely to be suppressed / challenged / thrown out
If Trump actually shows up and gets humiliated, there is zero chance he will do another one. He'll run with his stupid "he's on drugs" excuse. He's got the mind of a 5 year old.
I'm thinking there's a good chance he may not even show for the first one. His big brain has come up with this drug thing and no one in his circle is going to dare tell him how idiotic he sounds.
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