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US PoliEra 2020 |OT8| Do it for Her
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If Biden gets in with a Dem senate, the first call needs to be to Breyer.
If this is the response, the counter-response seems clear: don't reject the proposals if you're GOP. Instead pretend to negotiate and waste years doing this, with the effect being the GOP looks like the reasonable ones and any moves from Democrats to reject a heavy compromise can be played in the media as bad faith deals because "we are supposed to work together, you guys! But it's clear that's impossible with legislative terrorists like you. Maybe WE should kill the filibuster once we are back in office!"
I mean, that would be a good strategy, but the GOP in its current form is not capable of carrying that out because of how reactionary their base and much of their Senate caucus is.
You can see that in that McConnell did not do that to save the judicial filibuster even when it was clear the Democrats were on the verge of getting rid of it.
Hence "if".
Don't shoot the messenger, i'm just explaining the math needed for 50/50 to work if they only win those three senate races. Given current polling, it's looking more like they'll get 51-54 seats, with the latter assuming all (currently rated) toss-ups and Lean D seats land on the same side (Arizona, Maine, Colorado, North Carolina, Iowa, South Carolina, Montana, the non-runoff Georgia election); 55 will be if Jones holds on, unlikely as that seems at the moment.
You didn't say that though, you said 50/50 as if Jones was the one that was the deciding factor on that.
GOP thrives on fueling big conservative strokes by corrupting Dem intentions to the public. They do it easier than breathing, they love being the opposition.
If anything first person calling Biden will be Breyer because he isn't an idiot
If the Dems don't win the Senate is turtle going to bring any Biden judicial nominees to a vote?
No. Also it would be a massive disaster. A dysfunctional government that voters will squarely blame on Dems. Nothing would get through.
This question is not even worth asking, you know exactly what the answer is lol
Nope. He'll come up with a new rule: Dems never get a vote.
I figured as much, not trying to knock you down. I just think everyone would be better served writing him off. It was an accomplishment winning that seat, but it's Alabama.
"With all the controversy from the election, and how many people don't believe Biden is President, it would not be prudent for him to choose lifelong appointments for them. Let's have a legitimate election for a President whom everyone can accept as representing their interests, and then we will have a vote."
Oh, the GOP will love being in opposition in that sense, but they aren't capable of pretending to negotiate in good faith in the manner you're suggesting, because their base will demand nothing but people screaming "fuck you" at the Democrats non-stop.
Their base will do whatever they're told to by their authority figures. If they're told to act like decorum and gentlemen's agreements matter, they'll put on the clothes of the Founding Fathers and pretend that reasonable and informed legislative philosophy is the foundation of all American activity. They don't care.
No, they won't. We saw that during the Obama years; the Republican House caucus, especially, was effectively ungovernable due to truculent ultra-conservatives, let alone the party's voters.
And as I noted, the GOP already did not pursue the strategy you're suggesting in the Obama years regarding judicial appointments.
You misunderstand my meaning. Their authority figures, sans Trump, are Fox News, OANN, and Facebook. The same actors will be influencing those mediums and they're pretty united from what I can tell.
Most of what gets me now is that we've known for a minute now that healthcare premiums are slated to be more expensive due to the sheer costs of COVID and instability it shocked the market with. Now with the ACA probably waiting to get shot in the head, I can't imagine how much more expensive things get after another healthy dose of uncertainty is injected into the markets. Wildest thing is that even if we win, we're pretty much primed for every deficit hawk to come down on us with the thunder. It's infuriating and we're going to need strong leaders to carry us through that hailstorm.
I'll pay anybody who wants to bet me a Trading Places dollar if the non-white third party vote in Minnesota is actually 12%.
Yes, but those media sources aren't going to be urging the sorts of measures you're proposing either, they'll be fanning the flames (just as they did in the past), because that's what's profitable for them.
What could be more profitable than blocking all Democratic progress while making yourself look like a put upon victim who deserves power for the sake of the American Way?
"Why would I? I've been explicitly told this is why I have been nominated."
She's not going to recuse and it's going to look bad to voters. There's not going to be some big deciding case but when Trump and republicans are screaming they're corrupt, go with it.
Well they need to make sure she holds her hands in the air so she can't cross her fingers and say no backsies
That'll do it
That'll do it
Pointless. Pretty much guaranteed she told him she'd back him regardless of the law.
"There is human law and then there is God's law. God's law is on your side Mr. President and I fully back it."
I think the point is to try and bait her into showing herself to be a Trump partisan. Would be useful if she did if we were to proceed to pack the courts.
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It's not pointless. Any questions are for voters not for actually stopping her.
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just don't even show up to the hearings. Don't give them a spectacle their going to win anyway.
just don't even show up to the hearings. Don't give them a spectacle their going to win anyway.
Okay, my little Kansas town went from no Biden Harris signs to four after I put mine up today. Apparently the Dems here didn't want to be the first.
Ask her if she agrees with four of the conservative Justices already on the Court that the ACA should be thrown in the trash. Repeatedly. Point out every time that the other four Justices on the court have already ruled on that question and that she would be the deciding vote on the case coming up in a matter of weeks.
I swear I always see segments from Lou Dobbs on my feed around when I get off of work and they always come off as absolutely batshit or extremely weird/cringe.
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