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infamous5445

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At how many Covid deaths do swing voters start becoming numb to it? I have to unfortunately assume there will be a point where those kinds of voters will stop caring about the death toll as a factor in the election.
 

Royalan

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At how many Covid deaths do swing voters start becoming numb to it? I have to unfortunately assume there will be a point where those kinds of voters will stop caring about the death toll as a factor in the election.

I'm not too sure.

COVID's not some far off war (which is still tragic, but still...). The death toll is steadily climbing and people are dying right here in the US.

The longer this goes on and the more people die, the more people are going to be touched by COVID related loss in one way or another.
 
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TheHunter

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My response to Elon

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At how many Covid deaths do swing voters start becoming numb to it? I have to unfortunately assume there will be a point where those kinds of voters will stop caring about the death toll as a factor in the election.

The daily deaths are probably just background noise to a lot of people already. But somewhere between now and the election, US COVID deaths will hit the 200k mark. When it happens, likely sometime in October, there will be a lot of noise made about it by pundits and the media, and the usual comparisons to other calamities will bring it back into tragic perspective for a lot of people again.
 

CrabDust

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Yes I saw it too; which is what prompted me to go hey that's a great talking point. And Biden should talk about it more so I don't have to specifically go out of my way to find the YouTube videos where he mentions it. Plaster it on TV
I mean I agree with you, this is just a bizzarro election cycle. In other years, she would be a big talking point given her massive unpopularity and the whole chaos of school re-opening.
 

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Eminem looking rough these days. The Trump years have not been kind to him.
I know its jokes and all, but really Eminem has been going all out war against Trump and his supporters. At the same time he is being fully supportive of George Floyd protests. I really don't feel right that we are not able to see his moral standing in Trump's America and still kinda keep lampooning him. 15-20 years ago if you'd ask me who would support a trashbag white nationalist president between Kanye and Eminem, I'd have gotten the answer so wrong
 

Kangi

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This page is making me feel like I've had a stroke. Ominous sign for my ability to make it to the election
 

sacrament

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Was off on holiday, avoiding this news (but ugh, gaming side).... Just saw some shit about Seattle and fed agents (I Iive in SEA) - how angry/scared should I be?
 
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Was off on holiday, avoiding this news (but ugh, gaming side).... Just saw some shit about Seattle and fed agents (I Iive in SEA) - how angry/scared should I be?

They're trying to provoke violence so FOX can have something to talk about that doesn't revolve around COVID or Trump praising child abusers.

The first trash can that goes through a Starbucks window will be spun to be the next Pearl Harbor
 

sacrament

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They're trying to provoke violence so FOX can have something to talk about that doesn't revolve around COVID or Trump praising child abusers.

The first trash can that goes through a Starbucks window will be spun to be the next Pearl Harbor

Thanks. As long as they leave Ladro alone... The people are the enemy bullshit.. almost paint by numbers these guys.

Ok, going to spend the last few days unplugged... And watch Sims Spark'd... Cause apparently SIMs like a cooking show is a thing and that's what you do with heavy vodka and sugar free lemonades..
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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biden's done the absolute opposite of what younger folk (myself included) expected. instead of being this weird, out-of-touch, gaffe-a-day old guy, he's been inclusive and genuinely empathetic at a time the nation needs someone like that.

Biden has not been gaffe a day, but he has been gaffe a month.

Just hope August's won't be bad
 

SmokeMaxX

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I know its jokes and all, but really Eminem has been going all out war against Trump and his supporters. At the same time he is being fully supportive of George Floyd protests. I really don't feel right that we are not able to see his moral standing in Trump's America and still kinda keep lampooning him. 15-20 years ago if you'd ask me who would support a trashbag white nationalist president between Kanye and Eminem, I'd have gotten the answer so wrong
? Eminem wrote Mosh 16 years ago during the Bush administration.
genius.com

Eminem – Mosh

In this political protest song, released online as a single right before the U.S. Presidential election in 2004, Eminem states clearly that he passionately disagrees with the Bush
All the people up top, on the side and the middle
Come together, let's all form and swarm just a little
Just let it gradually build from the front to the back
All you can see is a sea of people, some white and some black
Don't matter what color, all that matters we're gathered together
To celebrate for the same cause, no matter the weather
If it rains, let it rain – yeah, the wetter the better
They ain't gon' stop us, they can't, we're stronger now more than ever
They tell us "No!" we say "Yeah!" They tell us "Stop!" we say "Go!"
Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell, we gon' let 'em know
Stomp, push shove, mush; fuck Bush!
Until they bring our troops home, come on, just—
 

xfactor99

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I know its jokes and all, but really Eminem has been going all out war against Trump and his supporters. At the same time he is being fully supportive of George Floyd protests. I really don't feel right that we are not able to see his moral standing in Trump's America and still kinda keep lampooning him. 15-20 years ago if you'd ask me who would support a trashbag white nationalist president between Kanye and Eminem, I'd have gotten the answer so wrong

Eminem has always been pretty good on race, that's why he was largely accepted by the hip-hop community back when he broke onto the scene in 1999. My main issue with him was that he was still using the word f*ggot as a gay slur in his songs 2018. That's just pathetic for a 45-year old man in 2018.
 
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TheHunter

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You managed to gets Vets on the line.

Nice job getting all of America to hate you GOP!
 

xfactor99

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This article encapsulates a lot of my frustration with (and I'm sure many of you feel the same way) with our political system. Millennials make far less than Boomers and Gen X's of the same age, and came to age during the 2008 Great Recession and the 2020 Coronavirus pandemic. And what's most infuriating about it is that those same Boomers who claim to be against big government are the ones who benefit the most from government largesse - e.g. Social Security, Medicare, and the mortgage interest deduction while being opposed to universal healthcare, a minimum wage, dealing with the student loan crisis, and making it more affordable for millennials to buy a home.

Studies show that even a decade after the crash, all but the most educated Millennials were earning and saving less than Xers or Boomers did at the same age. Lower entry-level salaries can have consequences ("wage scars") that last an entire life time. This precarious outlook is probably one reason why Millennials had already been delaying marriage and children longer than preceding generations did, and are more likely to still be living with (gasp) their parents.

And then this coronavirus showed up, causing a downturn that's making the "Great Recession" of 2008 seem almost mild. After that previous labor-market trauma, a lot of Millennials took whatever gigs they could find — as bartenders, baristas, waiters or contract workers. But these are exactly the types of jobs that fell away during the lockdowns and may not come back soon.

So Millennials have a right to be frustrated. But what makes many of them irate is watching the older generations milk the system at their expense, through what some economists call "Boomer socialism."

Consider the generous but unsustainable public pensions going to Boomers in most developed countries, which are payed for largely by Millennials and Xers. In the U.S., there's also health care that's universal and public for the old (called Medicare) but often unavailable or unaffordable for the young. In many countries, the Boomers have also bid up house prices beyond the reach of Millennials, in part with tax breaks for mortgage interest that disproportionately benefit older taxpayers. Oh, and there's the mountain of student-loan debt bearing down on many American Millennials.

This distress, coupled with the hypocrisy of Boomers who claim to oppose big government while enjoying it in so many ways, explains why Millennials have been trending left and even embracing the loaded word "socialism." It's these fed-up young voters who boosted the campaigns of lefty Boomer populists like Bernie Sanders in the U.S. and Jeremy Corbyn in the U.K.

www.bloomberg.com

OK Boomer, We’re Gonna Socialize You

The pandemic is turning Millennials into socialists. We must make them a better offer.
 

cameron

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www.cnn.com

Local TV stations across the country set to air discredited 'Plandemic' researcher's conspiracy theory about Fauci

Update: The day after this story was published, Sinclair announced it would postpone and "rework" the segment. Read our follow-up story for more... Local television stations owned by the Sinclair Broadcast Group are set to air a conspiracy theory over the weekend that suggests Dr. Anthony...
New York (CNN Business) — Local television stations owned by the Sinclair Broadcast Group are set to air a conspiracy theory over the weekend that suggests Dr. Anthony Fauci, the nation's top expert on infectious diseases, was responsible for the creation of the coronavirus.
The baseless conspiracy theory is set to air on stations across the country in a segment during the program "America This Week" hosted by Eric Bolling. The show, which is posted online before it is broadcast over the weekend, is distributed to Sinclair Broadcast Group's network of local television stations, one of the largest in the country. A survey by Pew Research Group earlier this year showed that local news was a vital source of information on the coronavirus for many Americans, and more trusted than the media overall.
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Bolling then told CNN Business that he was not aware of the viral "Plandemic" video Mikovits was featured in earlier this year, and said Saphier "was not originally booked on the show" and that he added her to "provide an opposing viewpoint."
"I don't know of any video she was in prior to or after appearing on my show. Frankly, I was shocked when she made the accusation," Bolling said. "I asked our producers to add Saphier to the show for the express purpose of debunking the conspiracy theory. I believe viewers see that I did not and do not endorse her theory."
When asked if he really was unaware that Mikovits had been in a viral video earlier in the year pushing misinformation about coronavirus, Bolling said he had been.
"I give you my word... this is the first I've heard of the video," Bolling said. "And the very first time I heard of Dr Mikovitz was the morning of taping."
But when asked whether, now that he was aware of the video, he had any second thoughts about airing the segment with Mikovits, Bolling replied, "I don't second guess my producers and bookers."







 

cameron

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www.cbsnews.com

Barron Trump's school will not fully reopen in the fall

At a coronavirus task force briefing on Wednesday, Mr. Trump said he had "no problem" with Barron and his grandchildren returning to school full time.

The school attended by President Trump's 14-year-old son Barron, St. Andrew's Episcopal School, will not fully reopen in the fall, according to an announcement on its website.
At a coronavirus task force briefing on Wednesday, Mr. Trump said he had "no problem" with Barron and his grandchildren returning to school full-time as he pushes for schools nationwide to reopen full-time in the fall.
The St. Andrew's website said the school has been preparing for either full-time distance learning or a hybrid model with students learning both on and off campus. The school said it is "hopeful that public health conditions will support our implementation of the hybrid model in the fall." It also left open the possibility of continuing with distance learning implemented in March.








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www.businessinsider.com

Republican Party officials hid COVID-19 mask purchases by labeling them 'building maintenance' in federal disclosures

GOP leaders publicly rejected face coverings, but party leaders spent $14,000 on mask purchases they described as "building maintenance."
Think "building maintenance," and you probably imagine plumbing, a new coat of paint, or a replacement toilet-paper dispenser.
But when the Republican National Committee in June spent more than $14,000 on "building maintenance," none of its facilities were getting a face-lift.
Instead, the RNC purchased face masks designed to limit the spread of COVID-19, according to Insider interviews and a review of federal campaign-finance disclosures released earlier this week.
The RNC ordered the masks at a time when President Donald Trump and other prominent Republicans were refusing to cover their faces in public. The purchases show Republican leaders were taking the coronavirus more seriously than they'd been publicly letting on.
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The RNC declined to comment on the nature of its "building maintenance" purchase, or why it publicly described protective face masks as such.
"As a general rule, we don't itemize beyond what is required" by the Federal Election Commission, the committee said in a statement to Insider.
Following publication of this article, RNC spokesperson Cassie Smedile told Insider that "there was no obfuscation" on the committee's part.
"When we buy pens and pencils, the description is not 'pens and pencils' on the FEC report," she said. "These generic descriptions are traditionally how expenses are reported and processed."
That's mostly, but not entirely true: The RNC disclosed a purchase of "pens" in a 2012 FEC report. More recently, on May 20, the committee disclosed a "paper supplies" purchase of $324, and it's also reported several instances of "painting services" and "painting costs" over the years.
 

gcubed

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Oct 25, 2017
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So what do all the criminals that are working in various government agencies do once Trump loses? I would assume they would run their ass out of town so fast.

If I was Biden I would use my victory speech to basically say every single person involved in federal overreach around these "surges" in communities will be identified, investigated, fired with cause to lose benefits/pensions and possibly jailed if crimes were committed... say from today on, "I was just following orders" is not an excuse in the United States. I can't imagine some of these slimeball acting directors will stay in the job past November for fear of reprisal.

Also... you think leaking is bad now? Wait until Trump loses, gloves are off for long time employees of these agencies. Things will get crazy with how much internal stuff is going to make it to the press.
 

cameron

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Trump's own Labor Department told Congress that it "strongly" opposed the administration's sliding scale proposal for more unemployment $ saying it is "exceedingly difficult if not impossible to implement." Could take states 8-20 weeks to figure out

7:32 AM · Jul 25, 2020

www.npr.org

State Unemployment Agencies Could Take Months To Adapt To WH Proposal, Memos Show

The National Association of State Workforce Agencies tells lawmakers on Capitol Hill that it would take most states 8-20 weeks to move to a modified system of awarding benefits.
Ancient state unemployment systems that struggled to handle the first round of COVID relief payments, could take months or more to adopt a White House proposal for modifying the benefits, according to memos obtained by NPR.
Such a lag could mean the roughly 30 million people currently collecting pandemic-related unemployment benefits would see their income drop from a weekly average of $900 to an average of $300 per week.
The proposal would cut emergency unemployment benefits to roughly 70% of a person's lost wages — a more complicated calculation than the current, flat $600.
Critics have warned since March that such a proposal would undermine efforts to speed relief to millions of people out of work due to the coronavirus. The potential delays are so significant that the U.S. Department of Labor told Congress in may that it "strongly" opposed such a change because states would find it "exceedingly difficult if not impossible to implement."
The National Association of State Workforce Agencies told lawmakers on Capitol Hill that it would take most states 8-20 weeks to move to a system of awarding weekly benefits on a sliding scale based on the worker's wages before losing their job, according to a copy of the memo obtained by NPR.
The group asked that any effective date for new benefits be set "in the future with sufficient time for programming," a delay that would further exacerbate already lengthy unemployment backlogs in many states.
The assessment comes days before the existing benefits are set to expire.

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Charlie Savage @charlie_savage

Promised confidentiality by the FBI, a Russia expert who had collected Trump-Russia chatter for the Steele dossier agreed to cooperate with agents vetting it. Barr directed the FBI to declassify a road map to identifying him. w/ @adamgoldmanNYT

6:32 AM · Jul 25, 2020

www.nytimes.com

The F.B.I. Pledged to Keep a Source Anonymous. Trump Allies Aided His Unmasking. (Published 2020)

After a Russia expert who had collected research on Donald Trump for a disputed dossier agreed to tell the F.B.I. what he knew about it, law enforcement officials declassified a road map to identifying him.
 
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