To be fair, the Tea Party was mostly rich right-wing groups astroturfing. And then they lost control of it to the crazies.
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT6| I will not be closing this thread when the second wave hits.
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If the person thinks the Intercept is good and refers to everyone to the right of Mao as Neoliberal there's a good chance they're "rose twitter".
Especially if the endlessly complain about working within the democratic party. That's a dead giveaway. This point usually means you will often find revolutionary types as well...and tankies.
Especially if the endlessly complain about working within the democratic party. That's a dead giveaway. This point usually means you will often find revolutionary types as well...and tankies.
So what would that be? Left Wing "Tea Party" types and neo-Stalinists?
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Aren't they worried that by cutting unemployment benefits and tear gasing protesters that they are essentially creating an insurmountable narrative?
Even the most critical of Biden will now see this and want to vote against Trump. This does nothing but help Biden.
Even the most critical of Biden will now see this and want to vote against Trump. This does nothing but help Biden.
DING DING DING
They do it because it's easier than all the dirty, complicated work of governing and dealing with all the grey realities of our world.
Kyle Kondik @kkondik
Crystal Ball: 8 House rating changes, almost all benefiting Ds:
Changes explained, plus overall assessment: http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/house-rating-changes/…
229 seats at least lean D, 193 at least lean R, and 13 Toss-ups. Splitting the Toss-ups seven to six D would yield a one-seat D gain from 2018
6:30 AM · Jul 23, 2020
Crystal Ball: 8 House rating changes, almost all benefiting Ds:
Changes explained, plus overall assessment: http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/house-rating-changes/…
229 seats at least lean D, 193 at least lean R, and 13 Toss-ups. Splitting the Toss-ups seven to six D would yield a one-seat D gain from 2018
6:30 AM · Jul 23, 2020
Can I ask something of you guys: with Trump sending in the DHS to cities to "control violence" - are we sure that we can have safe, stable elections?
I feel like the only way to overcome the supression is by insuring massive amount of people go out to vote in Person.
I feel like the only way to overcome the supression is by insuring massive amount of people go out to vote in Person.
Politics drive views of US response to 2 Oregon standoffs
BOISE, Idaho (AP) — When armed protesters took over a remote wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon four years ago to oppose federal control of public lands, U.S. agents negotiated with the conservative occupiers for weeks while some state leaders begged for stronger action.
apnews.com
BOISE, Idaho (AP) — When armed protesters took over a remote wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon four years ago to oppose federal control of public lands, U.S. agents negotiated with the conservative occupiers for weeks while some state leaders begged for stronger action.
This month, federal officers sent to Portland to quell chaotic protests against racial injustice took swift and, some say, harsh action: launching tear gas, firing less-lethal ammunition and helping arrest more than 40 people in the first two weeks. State leaders are imploring federal forces to leave the progressive city, saying they're escalating a volatile situation.
The reaction from state leaders, protesters and anti-government groups to the U.S. response to two disparate situations shows the inconsistencies in how both sides view federal intervention, often based on the politics of who's protesting and who's cracking down.
J.J. MacNab, a fellow at George Washington University's Program on Extremism, said many right-wing extremists who espouse anti-government and pro-gun views have embraced the authoritarian tactics used by President Donald Trump that they denounced under his Democratic predecessor.
"It's like night and day," she said. "They hated government when Obama was in office. They love government now."
MacNab, who's been monitoring social media chatter by supporters of anti-government groups like the Oath Keepers and the militia-style Three Percenters, said she's seen a steady stream of violent rhetoric directed toward Portland protesters.
MacNab said the Oath Keepers in 2015 promoted a conspiracy theory that a U.S. military training exercise was a pretext for the federal government to impose martial law.
"They are literally 180 degrees from where they were in 2015," she said.
More in the link.
Latest poll of Florida: Joe Biden 50%, Donald Trump 44%
Another day, another Florida poll with Biden winning by more than 5.
https://floridapolitics.com/archive...eads-in-florida-with-more-than-50-of-the-vote
Another day, another Florida poll with Biden winning by more than 5.
You're making the mistake of thinking these people are politically savvy. They're not. A lot of them have maintained power on the back of racism, white identity politics, fear, and Democrats being incompetent--not because they're good at messaging or even have policies people like.
Kyle Kondik @kkondik
Crystal Ball: 8 House rating changes, almost all benefiting Ds:
Changes explained, plus overall assessment: http://centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/house-rating-changes/…
229 seats at least lean D, 193 at least lean R, and 13 Toss-ups. Splitting the Toss-ups seven to six D would yield a one-seat D gain from 2018
6:30 AM · Jul 23, 2020
I'm shocked that Chip Roy is in a remotely competitive seat, considering how awful he is.
"Why spend a fuck ton of money to help Trump if it isn't helping him and only going to hurt my ability to claim I care about financial conservatism" basically. Ted seems particularly struck with this
If they pass a second round of stimulus how are they going to criticize whatever a Biden administration does?
If they pass a second round of stimulus how are they going to criticize whatever a Biden administration does?
I understand that, but right now they are poking the bear. They are literally energizing the democrat base. Trump is playing a dangerous game where he's openly attacking the Left in a way where they will show up in larger numbers to vote.
Tea Party was made up of old people.
OWS was made up of young people.
One of those age groups actually shows up to vote.
Do you think the youth will show up to vote in this next election? seems like sending in troops to cities is a great way to piss them off.
Yes, I do. IIRC, they showed up in the Wisconsin special elections after the state supreme court tried to rig them by refusing to shut them down. Also, cutting unemployment benefits is going to affect them hard.
The worse news for republicans that seniors always show up, and the party is hemorrhaging that age group of voters right now.
Another problem causing identity crisis right now is that these stimulus bills are showing basic income is better than Tax cuts and trickle up is a more effective way to stimulate the economy than trickle down
Y'all traitors tied your anchors to him.
And he's not letting go.
What I don't get about it is that even with the Trumpiest of Trumpsters, none of them are sitting around talking about how he passed a cognitive test. It doesn't appeal to anyone.
I actually just started watching it again, after not having seen it since it first aired. It is generally a fun show, I'd recommend giving it a shot.
My SO's sister has a pineapple at the end of her Twitter name and is very involved in the resistance as a public defense lawyer. I wondered if that had any political significance or not like the Roses.
He's a narcissist so he has to prove he's best at everything. He also has cognitive decline either from a heart attack/stroke or dementia and is at the phase where he knows it and is trying to convince himself otherwise. He probably talks about this test all day long.
Also, anyone who has dealt with dementia patients knows that they fixate on things.
Well, a pineapple would make a better president.
Most of what hes doing doesnt appeal the 65% of the country.
People have concluded he fucked up the CV response.
People have concluded he fucked up the BLM situation and the heavy handed police stuff.
People dont like the idea of federal "police" going into cities that dont want them.
He really only has his MAGA brainwashed folk left at this point and outside Biden like having a stroke on a debate stage, o dont see how he gets people back.
Even a vaccine wouldnt be enough cause nobody would see that as something he himself did.
And man if there are football games, the negative ads that are going to be ran against him will be BRUTAL. A 30sec summary of the last 3.5 years would look horrible
One benefit is that those guys can never say they're against government force with a straight face.Politics drive views of US response to 2 Oregon standoffs
BOISE, Idaho (AP) — When armed protesters took over a remote wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon four years ago to oppose federal control of public lands, U.S. agents negotiated with the conservative occupiers for weeks while some state leaders begged for stronger action.BOISE, Idaho (AP) — When armed protesters took over a remote wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon four years ago to oppose federal control of public lands, U.S. agents negotiated with the conservative occupiers for weeks while some state leaders begged for stronger action.This month, federal officers sent to Portland to quell chaotic protests against racial injustice took swift and, some say, harsh action: launching tear gas, firing less-lethal ammunition and helping arrest more than 40 people in the first two weeks. State leaders are imploring federal forces to leave the progressive city, saying they're escalating a volatile situation.The reaction from state leaders, protesters and anti-government groups to the U.S. response to two disparate situations shows the inconsistencies in how both sides view federal intervention, often based on the politics of who's protesting and who's cracking down.J.J. MacNab, a fellow at George Washington University's Program on Extremism, said many right-wing extremists who espouse anti-government and pro-gun views have embraced the authoritarian tactics used by President Donald Trump that they denounced under his Democratic predecessor."It's like night and day," she said. "They hated government when Obama was in office. They love government now."MacNab, who's been monitoring social media chatter by supporters of anti-government groups like the Oath Keepers and the militia-style Three Percenters, said she's seen a steady stream of violent rhetoric directed toward Portland protesters.MacNab said the Oath Keepers in 2015 promoted a conspiracy theory that a U.S. military training exercise was a pretext for the federal government to impose martial law."They are literally 180 degrees from where they were in 2015," she said.
More in the link.
I googled what the pineapple could mean (if anything) and did come across this:
news.yahoo.com
Even if it is unrelated that is something I never knew and I found it fascinating.
Surprising meaning behind the pineapple explained
Social media symbols like the pineapple and rainbow could reframe pregnancy complications as pink ribbons did for breast cancer.
Even if it is unrelated that is something I never knew and I found it fascinating.
That's my district. It's gerrymandered like a pizza slice from the near-center of the city outward (so reaches out into suburbs and beyond). It's 100% bullshit.
Yeah. I've been saying come back to me with hopium when Biden's above 50% in Florida. That's when I'll start believing we have a chance in Florida.
The great thing about being a newer politician running against an older one is you get lots of easy targets in the form of old votes that you don't have a record on.
Because it's previous near 100% success rate wasn't strong enough evidence.
The only good thing about a Kennedy primary win is that it doesn't put a Senate seat in danger. I hope Markey survives, but I'm not optimistic.
Shamelessly.
Honestly, they've never hesitated to be hypocrites before. We've got to remember that. Dems care about that stuff, but the GOP don't. If they get stomped in November, and a supreme court seat opens up the day after the election, they're going to rush to fill it even though that is 100% counter to everything they said in 2016. They don't care.
They're going to immediately start demanding Biden not spend a penny without offsetting it somehow, BUT NOT BY TAXES, the day he takes office, should he win.
I don't think this is always fair. I can definitely see the apathy creeping in here in France now that it is looking to be Macron v Le Pen yet again. If it stays that way our participation will probably crater to levels like it is in the US. Some people are actually just burnt out by American politics and this discourse isn't any more helpful than theirs. It seems like the "left" in the US really hates other factions of itself more than they do republicans.
They don't actually care about fiscal conservatism. Every Republican president spends much more than anyone else. they also tank the economy. Their criticisms, like their policies, belong in the nearest trash can.
I don't want to need Florida. I wish they weren't allowed to start counting votes until the panhandle was closed.
If we win no matter what happens with Florida, I will be *very* happy.
Oopsie-daisie. Still fairly shitty, but they dropped the payroll tax cut for now.
Republicans scrap Trump's demand for payroll tax cut as they cobble together draft coronavirus bill
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/07/23/congress-stimulus-coronavirus-trump/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_virushill-9am:homepage/story-ans
Republicans scrap Trump's demand for payroll tax cut as they cobble together draft coronavirus bill
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/07/23/congress-stimulus-coronavirus-trump/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_virushill-9am:homepage/story-ans
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