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US PoliEra 2020 |OT6| I will not be closing this thread when the second wave hits.
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JFC. First, we don't know fully what long term effects this virus has on our bodies, young or old. Second, even if what he said was true and there was literally no issue for kids getting the virus, they live and interact with adults and elderly folks who they will infect and fuck up. This guy is a blithering idiot.
Very good. Shoring up the Midwest is critical still until AZ and GA finally turn in an election and FL and NC become more reliable.
Getting a popular midwestern governor from the other party to speak at your convention is quite the coup for Biden's campaign.
Just a reminder that Kasich, by the end of his term, was more popular with Democrats than Republicans in Ohio.
I mean, Kasich is kind of shit even if he can come off as a "decent" Republican. I believe he signed a harsh anti-abortion bill and was the original defendant for Obgerfell.
He just talks nicely like pre-Trump GOP. Like the Lincoln project, for now he may be useful. But I want nothing to do with him afterwards. Hold his ass to the fire too.
He's also the least polarizing option to show that Biden is capable of bringing Republicans unhappy with Trump into his coalition. Pretty good all around, I'd say.
Also good from a pure primate dominance perspective: Kasich turned down Trump's offer to not just make him VP, but to put Kasich "in charge of domestic and foreign policy" with Trump as a figurehead. I bet a ton of regular voters haven't heard that particular story, and it could be memorably damning to hear it told in a convention speech, because it effectively underscores what a weak, rejected, rudderless freak Donald is.
It's Portland. It's super-white, super-liberal, young, and like everywhere else those people have plenty of free time on their hands.
He is undoubtedly a shit, but at this point, unlikely though it may be, I'd much rather have that old Republican party back than the flesh beast that it has turned into now.
Who do I talk to about getting this to happen? This NEEDS to happen.
And this is good because maybe it will help convince the small sliver of Ohio Republicans who still like him
This guy is going to be the next Senator from Massachusetts. Watch him be a top contender for President in a few years too.
All lawmakers should be barred from owning stocks. Just add it to the pile of reforms we need to implement and hope that it doesn't take a revolution to get it done.
Pushing Markey out to basically sit in the seat for a few years before attempting for higher office at this point. The name seems to be his only appeal.
The value of endorsements is often pretty overrated, but this is a big get, given how close Ohio is polling. There's definitely a group of Ohio Republicans who would be more amenable to voting Democrat with Kasich's endorsement, and it doesn't need to be that large to be electorally significant.
Honestly still one of the best aliases I have ever seen.
I cannot believe the stupidity. The bit on John Oliver last night about conspiracy theories, and this very overweight (which I mention because of his increased risk) dude in a hospital bed from covid saying on camera,
"I thought it was maybe the govt was trying something, like kind of, like they threw it out there to distract us."
WHAT????
He now admits it's real and says his wife has been on a ventilator for three weeks.
"I thought it was maybe the govt was trying something, like kind of, like they threw it out there to distract us."
WHAT????
He now admits it's real and says his wife has been on a ventilator for three weeks.
Very cool, nothing like rolling into a city and smashing on citizens with impunity.
Yeah those hot takes about Kasich being an wildly homophobic anti-abortion union buster. Fuck rose twitter for being so principled!
How much Kasich really matters on his own isn't much of the point. Hillary did not get a single endorsement like that. Not one. The fact that there are some relatively well known republicans actually saying they are going to vote for him and that other people should too is just the continuation of a good trend
Hillary completely failed to make the cross the isle pitch for the "good of the country", because basically zero republicans could bring themselves to do it. Joe Biden is just a better vessel for that strategy because a lot more seem to think he's fine
Hillary completely failed to make the cross the isle pitch for the "good of the country", because basically zero republicans could bring themselves to do it. Joe Biden is just a better vessel for that strategy because a lot more seem to think he's fine
I get the play for Ohio, and I think you get away with this only because the convention isn't in person. If it was in person then this really wouldn't be a good idea.
Meh, I get why but I don't think Biden needs a Kasich endorsement.
Because there's a vaccine to pump. Oxford and AstraZeneca out with positive news today about their vaccine producing positive results in all test subjects with no serious side effects, on to large scale phase 3.
Who the fuck let Trump start these again?
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This is definitely why.
An appointee is doing this. Not someone officially confirmed.
That appointee has never severed in military or law enforcement.
Fuck we need to change appointee laws once we get power.
Nazi scum
Kasich speaking at the convention is pretty gross. I understand the political calculus, but at some point you have to draw a line in the sand. For the people that are okay with this, where is that line? For example, if Bush wanted to speak at the convention for Biden, would people accept that because it's good political points and shows he can cross the isle?
Also, they have a particularly awful police department. It's a liberal oasis in a white supremacist state.
Romney's in the the middle of his speech when the lights go out again.
BONG. BONG. BONG.
An organ starts playing and the lights come back on, a resurrected John McCain is now standing directly behind Romney.
"Mah god, it's John McCain. It's McCain back from the dead. As god as my witness, he's back from the dead!"
R-money and McCain stare down each other for a minute, sizing each other up. Then, shoot out their hands and clasp each other in a show of solidarity. Then, McCain points to the Titantron over the stage.
Diamond Joe's visage pops up, aviators reflecting the bright lights of the stadium. "Donald Trump, your chance of being re-elected this November? No chance in HELL!" Pyrotechnics go off.
It will be less Coronavirus talk and more campaign speak.
Thing is, you can't really do that or you're just giving an opposition Senate the ability to cripple the functioning of any department by refusing to confirm nominees.
If I had polling in Texas that showed Bush would swing the vote there 2 or 3% it would absolutely be worth having him speak. The real question is how much voters are persuaded by public endorsements anymore.
I think these are the general parameters that define whether a problematic endorsement is worth signal-boosting:
A) is the person only going to be exclusively discussing the issues you agree with, and won't be bringing up, say, anti-LGBT stuff or union-busting
B) do you sincerely expect this will help you get some certain helpful goal eg winning Ohio, forcing the GOP to waste money in Ohio, etc; or at least doesn't hurt your goals.
I think it is reasonable to suspect that Kasich at the convention does meet both criteria, while, say, Bernie getting Joe Rogan's endorsement generally met A but wasn't particularly helpful on B. I believe Republicans generally though Zell Miller at the 2004 GOP convention met both, and also with Joe Lieberman speaking at the 2008 GOP convention.
The line would be Biden making policy concessions to never-Trump Republicans in exchange for endorsements. As long as that doesn't happen and there's the chance it draws reluctant Republican voters away from Trump, I don't care who they bring out to continue sapping percentage points from Trump or at least force him to spend money to avoid sinking further.
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