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shiba5

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Trump now explicitly warning that fair housing regulations designed to combat housing segregation will "obliterate" the suburbs: "Your home will go down in value and crime rates will rapidly rise," Trump said today.

Is this in response to suburbs in red states turning purple? Who is advising him that this is winning message?
 

ZAKU-RED

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So to try and win back Suburban voters is to *Check notes* keep spouting off nonsense that is driving them away from Trump.

Alrighty then.
 

shiba5

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Sean Hannity says Joe Biden has "the most radical, extreme socialist agenda I've ever seen in any election"

LOL
I think they really expected to be running against Bernie and just kept the same script.
 

ArkhamFantasy

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Sean Hannity says Joe Biden has "the most radical, extreme socialist agenda I've ever seen in any election"

LOL
I think they really expected to be running against Bernie and just kept the same script.

Yeah, they probably had that script written before anyone even entered the race. It's astonishing that they have no idea how to attack biden.
 

Piston

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Sean Hannity says Joe Biden has "the most radical, extreme socialist agenda I've ever seen in any election"

LOL
I think they really expected to be running against Bernie and just kept the same script.
Well the thing is, Hannity is right in terms of national elections during his life time. Doesn't mean that his message is going to hit home and scare people off him towards Trump.
 

BoboBrazil

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Sean Hannity says Joe Biden has "the most radical, extreme socialist agenda I've ever seen in any election"

LOL
I think they really expected to be running against Bernie and just kept the same script.
Every democrat is the most radical extreme socialist they've ever seen. They do this every election against anyone who runs. They also said Obama and Hillary were the most radical extreme socialists they've ever seen
 

Ithil

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Oct 25, 2017
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Imagine if you banned the words radical or extreme/extremist from politics. The whole GOP would be stood there gulping for something to say.
 

Poodlestrike

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Hey, just take it as validation - Biden really does have the furthest-left platform in party history! 🎉
 

Mulligan

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Pretty sure I got COVID again. Waiting on my test results from two different locations since Monday. My symptoms are basically on the same timeframe as last time but not as severe right now.
 

Voyager

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Pretty sure I got COVID again. Waiting on my test results from two different locations since Monday. My symptoms are basically on the same timeframe as last time but not as severe right now.
You've had it already?!! Damn, I'm sorry you got it again (if that's the case), hoping for a speedy recovery.
 

infamous5445

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The right will try to convince voters Biden has the most radical platform ever and will be controlled by the radical left

The radical left will forever believe Biden is a dirty centrist

Best of both worlds right here
 

Mulligan

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You've had it already?!! Damn, I'm sorry you got it again (if that's the case), hoping for a speedy recovery.

Yeah. Fiancé and I got it in late March to middle of April. We had antibodies, but it seems like we don't have them anymore.

My fiancé and I live in East Harlem, and it seems like we both have it. Like last time, she's about a day and a half behind me when it comes to her symptoms starting.

We've worn masks, but we were definitely pretty flippant about using public transit, going to the parks a lot, and just being in the public because we wrongly assumed that we were immune for a while.
 

OfficerRob

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Sean Hannity says Joe Biden has "the most radical, extreme socialist agenda I've ever seen in any election"

LOL
I think they really expected to be running against Bernie and just kept the same script.
This was going to be the playbook against anyone who got the Dem nomination, but it would have stuck to Bernie (unlike Biden)
 

Antrax

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It's effectively a one-party state, so you get the opposite of what you see with Kansas Republicans.

Or Hawaii, with bigots like Tulsi in Congress. The problem with a one-party state is that you just shift the real race to the primary, and since there's nothing really stopping somebody from registering in a party, you can have people who would otherwise be Republicans in other states just run as Dems.

Dems should try to do more of that in hardcore red states honestly. Elect RINOs in Nebraska and shit. You gotta have some red lines, but winning even one office can be a big deal. JBE winning in Louisiana has brought more people healthcare in that state than anybody else could've pulled off.
 

Poodlestrike

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Or Hawaii, with bigots like Tulsi in Congress. The problem with a one-party state is that you just shift the real race to the primary, and since there's nothing really stopping somebody from registering in a party, you can have people who would otherwise be Republicans in other states just run as Dems.

Dems should try to do more of that in hardcore red states honestly. Elect RINOs in Nebraska and shit. You gotta have some red lines, but winning even one office can be a big deal. JBE winning in Louisiana has brought more people healthcare in that state than anybody else could've pulled off.
People talk about the RINOs for hard red states thing every time the topic comes up, but the problem is that the bigots are really good at telling who's really one of their own, and they run the Republican primaries outside of a couple edge cases.
 

Antrax

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People talk about the RINOs for hard red states thing every time the topic comes up, but the problem is that the bigots are really good at telling who's really one of their own, and they run the Republican primaries outside of a couple edge cases.

It's not a silver bullet, but occasionally the GOP puts up a turd, and sometimes I think we could win if we send JBE types into those primaries to sneak the nomination (and basically guarantee the general). Every time the GOP runs their state's version of Roy Moore (so, lower than expected approvals, past history of weakness, etc...), we should have somebody lined up to try to win the primary (and of course the general).

I think one big weakness of the party this past decade is we stopped interacting tactically with the GOP. They're gonna win sometimes, that's just how it goes. And they do a better job of capitalizing on it when we have poor candidates (EG Martin O'Malley fucking up so badly that Maryland of all places was primed for a GOP governor; that doesn't happen if they run a Corey Stewart clone instead of Hogan). We've been doing much better though since 2016; lots of little moves to get the GOP to list back to the center whenever possible. It won't make them attractive, but I'd feel a lot better if I could wave a wand and make as many Republicans as possible turn into Larry Hogan types. I still won't vote for them, but it's an improvement either way.
 

Poodlestrike

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It's not a silver bullet, but occasionally the GOP puts up a turd, and sometimes I think we could win if we send JBE types into those primaries to sneak the nomination (and basically guarantee the general). Every time the GOP runs their state's version of Roy Moore (so, lower than expected approvals, past history of weakness, etc...), we should have somebody lined up to try to win the primary (and of course the general).

I think one big weakness of the party this past decade is we stopped interacting tactically with the GOP. They're gonna win sometimes, that's just how it goes. And they do a better job of capitalizing on it when we have poor candidates (EG Martin O'Malley fucking up so badly that Maryland of all places was primed for a GOP governor; that doesn't happen if they run a Corey Stewart clone instead of Hogan). We've been doing much better though since 2016; lots of little moves to get the GOP to list back to the center whenever possible. It won't make them attractive, but I'd feel a lot better if I could wave a wand and make as many Republicans as possible turn into Larry Hogan types. I still won't vote for them, but it's an improvement either way.
I mean, if we could do it, that'd be great. I'd love to shift the overton window like that. It's just that with Republican nominating Qanon folks now, I'm skeptical how viable it is - their base seems actively allergic to that kind of person at this point.
 

Tamanon

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The Democrats are putting forth their most radical, leftist, socialist candidate yet in *looks down at card* Joe Biden? Joe Biden!

Hillary was basically Reagan compared to this guy!
 

kalindana

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Only 34% of Americans place a great deal or good amount of trust in what he says about COVID-19, while 64% trust him not so much or – in the case of nearly half the public – not at all.
abcnews.go.com

64% distrust Trump on coronavirus pandemic; approval declines as cases grow: POLL

Six in 10 in a new ABC/Post poll disapprove of how he’s handling COVID.
 
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I think this election is going to show the logical conclusion of this specific brand of division politics where you have to do the opposite of the opposition even if it is the sensible choice.

Kemp doubling down on the Trump position is mind boggling because the virus doesn't care about Fox News propaganda. It's still going to come after you.
 

ArkhamFantasy

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It's not really surprising that voters who go out of their way to oppose healthcare bills that would save themselves would also oppose pandemic measures that would save themselves.
 

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abcnews.go.com

64% distrust Trump on coronavirus pandemic; approval declines as cases grow: POLL

Six in 10 in a new ABC/Post poll disapprove of how he’s handling COVID.


Good. He just makes it so difficult for himself. If he did the right thing during the pandemic he literally could have been heralded as a hero and walked to reelection. Instead, hundreds of thousands die, millions of jobs are lost, he's going to lose pretty big, and now we are going to spend years to clean up this mess.
 
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