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US PoliEra 2020 |OT6| I will not be closing this thread when the second wave hits.
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It has a C rating according to 538, slightly R+0.8 ; this is a good index for reference
Well the hatred would be valid and justified. It was rotten from the start and it has to be addressed finally. And this is for the vice presidency. These people should have to answer for their actions if it helped to contribute to undue pain and imprisonment. I don't think that's unreasonable at all.
Reflect, acknowledge, and share how to do better. I think with that, Harris at the very least gets through this fine if she becomes more of a target. I pointed out Klob specifically because she's not going to be able to shake her lack of action with this same cop that has had issues in the past. She was already on thin ice as a legit VP candidate anyway. Biden should be able to deliver the midwest himself.
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thanks!
First, I don't think that Amy is really still in the running at all, not necessarily just because of what's happened here but the dynamics of the race aren't so much that Biden and Dems need to win over more voters but that the only way they lose at this point is if they fail to turn out the base.
I'm less worried about her being picked (though I would love that, I have a nuanced view on the role of prosecutors in that era nearly twenty years ago, perverse incentives lead to perverse outcomes), and more worried about some kind of wider purity test being applied that knocks out several candidates that IMO are well-positioned to help turn out that base and deliver long-term return on equity for key parts of the party base.
I don't think it's that simple. I still believe that there is a level of intentional malice in which he gets enjoyment out of inflicting pain on others.
In any event, fuck the Goldwater Rule, we need a deep dive into his psyche when this is all over.
Some will for sure do that with Harris. But I think it'll be the Very Online people as usual. Who don't really matter electorally.
As long as Harris can adequately address her issues. Demings seems like such an unknown. I don't think she has a real shot. She isn't going to tip the scales for Florida.
Narcissist get joy out of the revenge process he describes. The "win" rush. Even when its not a fair fight, it's still a win.
Police unions are the only unions that need busting. They're too strong and prevent oversight and any reform.
I hear you for sure. I just feel really good about Biden being up around 10, plus a lot of these head to head Senate polls looking solid. I don't want to count on anything being inevitable, but I just think things are going to keep getting worse for Trump, and that has to be creating some vulnerabilities that go our way in a wave election.
I seriously think Trump now sees his only out on this Twitter thing is to force them to ban his account and make himself the ultimate victim.
There is going to be blood on the ground before this is all over come the fall
How in the fuck do you get a pass by saying, "Not literally!" after that?
The nuance is that """some""" will need a firing squad or "the rope"
These assholes are loud, fat and wear a bright red hat. They ain't hard to find if they wanna get froggy
Yeah I agree with you. I know it's not over til election day but what's happening now makes a big difference on what happens then. Election day is just another data point.
That and it's a good distraction from 100,000 dead headlines
Before? I'm more worried about what happens after the election than before.
The crazies are gonna be off the leash
My only hope being that if trump somehow loses by a landslide
Then they see just how isolated and minimal they are and maybe it deescalates?
Yeah, in general I'd say most "guard labor" probably shouldn't be unionized. They exist merely to uphold the system, with the police being the worst of the bunch.
Imagine trump having lost on Nov3...now imagine what hell do between Nov 4th and the Biden inoguration in Jan. THAT is scary
It's in The Guardian now:
www.theguardian.com
George Floyd killing: two officers involved previously reviewed for use of force
Internal reviews of Derek Chauvin and Tou Thao’s use of force resulted in no disciplinary action, database confirms
www.theguardian.com
The only silver lining might be that his goons know they won't have a servile DoJ looking the other way, while the professional staff that will continue on after Trump will mostly just slow-walk and outright ignore his demands if there is a hint of unethical BS going on. They ain't going to jail for a lame duck asshole
This is what I am worried about.
Goddamn, and here I thought the worst of it was the stapler throwing.It's in The Guardian now:
George Floyd killing: two officers involved previously reviewed for use of force
Internal reviews of Derek Chauvin and Tou Thao’s use of force resulted in no disciplinary action, database confirms
Yeah... so she should certainly remove herself from consideration. She may not be picked ultimately anyway, but GTFO. I want to to be a 0% chance.It's in The Guardian now:
George Floyd killing: two officers involved previously reviewed for use of force
Internal reviews of Derek Chauvin and Tou Thao’s use of force resulted in no disciplinary action, database confirms
I'm getting the feeling we're probably gonna have another 10 incidents like this during summer alone.
Amy Klobuchar was elected to the Senate in the fall of 2006. This shooting occurred right during her election, and the grand jury events afterwards happened after well she left the office to go to the Senate.
Relegation of these cases to a grand jury was commonplace then (and is bad!), and reforms here have only been going on for the past few years and still aren't what you would call commonplace even today.
So I'm struggling to see what exactly Klobuchar did wrong here that thousands of other County Attorneys across also didn't do wrong here in that same time period. And I trust that the campaign will see this as a dealbreaker, and pass her over. Demanding her to withdraw from consideration will embolden more demands to withdraw to others. And I'd push back on that because it takes some very good candiates and people out of the running that would be excellent picks.
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I will guarantee you he will pardon himself. Maybe Roger Stone and Flynn too, but for sure himself. The best thing is that it won't matter as all the state charges from New York will haunt him with court fees the rest of his short remaining life. Once Trump realizes he is out he will try some frantic dumb shit, and by that time all his sycophants that might actually have the brains to help him or stop him will have jumped ship to someone else. No one will be around to help him even appear to be sane in those last few weeks. It will be interesting what a moron who doesn't know how to spell hamburgers or knows that insulin is for people with diabetes will do without his handlers supervising the little man-child.
It's so obvious that there are only yes-men left. This Twitter spat is one of the most embarrassing moments of the Trump presidency, in the middle of a pandemic no less.
I'm sure independents/older voters are loving this as the departure from his COVID-19 briefings. /s
I'm sure independents/older voters are loving this as the departure from his COVID-19 briefings. /s
You think Roberts is going to uphold a Presidential self-pardon when it inevitably gets to the SC?
The more clever play for Trump is to step down right before his term and have Pence pardon him.
His biggest political fear is looking like a loser by quitting, which is why he complains about Nixon not fighting the Impeachment threat from Congress
I never said it would work, but I am curious to see what he tries to pull. I doubt he is smart enough to do the Pence thing. That would be smart move and Trump doesn't really have a good track record with smart decisions. Would be an interesting battle, wonder which would win out? Trump's power hungry ego vs Trump's save his own ass narcissism? His brain might fully stop working as those two sides battle it out.
Fair points, but I'm not sure he'll give a damn about resigning on Jan 19 if it makes it through his empty skull that a blanket federal pardon is likely to stick if Pence does it, but not if he pardons himself.
He's gonna be burning everything down on the way out anyways. Bonus points for owning the libs on the way out with that move. Trumpets would probably eat it up.
He's gonna be burning everything down on the way out anyways. Bonus points for owning the libs on the way out with that move. Trumpets would probably eat it up.
Imagine being so butthurt that you sign an EO on the platform that made you butthurt. Imagine if said platform actually ends up deleting Trump's account because he removed their liability protections because he's a toxic moron spreading lies and signal-boosting conspiracy theories.
Why did he even pick Pence? He has the enthusiasm of a cardboard cutout and only seems to spout empty platitudes.
He got butt-hurt after they tagged one of his tweets talking about mail-in voting. So now he's lashing out by trying to remove liability protections so he can go after them with lawyers.
You're treating Trump like a rational actor. Bad idea. He hates looking weak More than anything, quetting make some work look weak so he won't quit. Doesn't matter how much logical an idea is when you're not beholden to logic.
He might try and pardon himself if for no other reason then I'll string things even further out as it's appeal up to the supreme Court. Even if it doesn't work. but I think the most likely scenario is he just simply gives a blanket pardon entire administration. That way anyone who could testify against him has no reason to because there's no threat of prosecution themselves. You might even see people willing to confess to his crimes themselves simply because the they can't be held accountable for it.
It's just sort of thing he would do (or rather someone's smarter than him would suggest to him). Although it shatters every law of decency there's no rule saying hee can't, it forces everyone else to look dirty whilehe can still pretend to be clean, and it will set the libs screaming, so his base will think it's a win.
"tantamount to monopoly"
"will be starting legislation on this"
"Democrats want this"
While those were the phrases I could understand, nothing from that prepared statement made sense. I still don't know what he signed.
That's what he wanted. He doesn't want anyone who has even the smallest chance of upstaging him. He wants someone who will eat whatever shit he throws at them and never, ever for a second look better than him.
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