Incompetence Inc.
I didn't either to run. Still don't. Don't want em. Never.
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Incompetence Inc.
I didn't either to run. Still don't. Don't want em. Never.
Virgil's white and straight?
I really when this place talks about Chapo because then I'm always forced to sort of defend a podcast I don't even like because y'all always purposefully exclude the nonwhite/non-male hosts in order to make your point, that and you all really don't give 2/3rds of a fuck about people being Jewish unless it's to defend AIPAC or some horrifying shit like that.
The IRS' website has been saying that if they don't have your direct deposit information on file, they'll have a portal where you can update that information so you can get your money sooner. So there will be opportunities for folks to get that information to them. Doesn't really help those who are bankless, but there are even ways around that.
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Does it bother me more than it bothers me that if Trump wins women will lose the right to have an abortion because the SC will become 7-3 majority? Does it bother me more than it bothers me that countless people will die that would otherwise live if Biden wins? Does it bother me more than the thousands of children will will be locked into cages that otherwise won't be if Biden wins?
No.
We don't have to have him as the nominee though. Hell, it could have been one of the other centrists in the centrist voltron
Obviously.
But it would bother me more if the other serial groper and rapist gets a second term and puts more of his rapist buddies on SCOTUS.
I may not be that passionate about Biden but I am passionate about my dislike of Bernie staying in this race. It's over. Drop out so Biden can start getting some big gun surrogates out there and win this thing in November.
You last tried this in the OT4 thread, and had numerous replies telling you what was wrong with them. Stop trolling.
It could have been another moderate, but that time has long since passed. Biden won the primary. Fair and square. And there is nothing we can do to go back and change that at this point.
Which is why the great things Biden could accomplish vs. the horrible death and destruction Trump would bring (see: RBG) weighs on me far more than anything else could.
We could go with being willfully ignorant as well. Either way, it's weird to pretend like the question wasn't already asked.
Obviously he is not Trump but is that enough to win people over? The real left has been warning since last year that Biden was going to get hit with a #MeToo accuser. I remember them saying that on Chapo in 2019. And the whole impeachment thing put into stark relief Biden's nepotism and legalized corruption. Calling attention to his son getting a job doing nothing was a bad move even if the president also did something illegal.
It could have been someone else, but a ton of people voted for him.
Perhaps we don't have to have him as a nominee but that's rather questionable in practice considering the whole will of the voters thing. He would have to basically willingly step down for it to work like you might want to.
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I disagree with all of them. Is this thread only for centrists?
The real left? So the people who voted for him weren't real?
Harm mitigation is the only argument people really have for Biden, so yeah they're going to insist that is enough.
Most of us casted our ballot for someone who wasn't Biden. I voted for Bernie already. You're kinda preaching to the choir here.
Are any of us under the illusion that the party would not nominate Biden when he is guaranteed to reach an easy delegate majority? I'm certainly not.
You're not wrong. Frankly, harm mitigation has encompassed every vote I cast.
Replacing RBG with a supreme court justice who isn't hellbent on banning abortion and gay marriage? Having someone in charge of environmental policy that believes in global warming? Ending the building of the border wall?
I mean we don't even have to guess. We know somethings that are 100% certainties that Biden will do that would undo a lot of Trump's harm.
There is a difference between liberalism and leftism, US discourse conflates the two.
Judges that protect women's rights isn't just harm mitigation. It will help steer the country forward for decades.
"Trump being impeached for extorting a foreign country and asking them to smear his opponent shows how Biden is bad."
Just because a lot of people say something, doesn't make them all right, yes I am being dogpiled but that doesn't make me wrong or a troll. If this is a thread about debate then perspectives of non-centrists should count too.
I don't really believe that a Biden EPA will really do anything but try not outwardly appear destructive.
This. The vote is against Trump at this rate. I wanted Warren or Castro though.
As for Chapo, doesn't matter who's on their bench, their material, their rhetoric, and their fans suck. Same feeling I have with TYT, but in this case the whole staff is a bunch of Cenks, Traceys, and Dores.
Yes, dear, and if you stay I can't guarantee you won't be infected. Flee now. Save yourself. Bye.
Did you think OT5 was filled with different voices and they would have a more-acceptable answer of what was wrong with Chapo and you would finally understand why it's bad, or are you just trying to stir up shit amongst all the cEnTrIsTs in here?
Would I rather have Bernie's policies? Sure. But it's more than harm mitigation for Biden now. When you vote for president it's far more than one singular person. You're voting for the staff they'll choose and the people they'll surround themselves with. Bernie surrounds himself with some questionable people and his insistence on not building bridges has me question who exactly may staff his administration. Biden on the other hand would likely give confidence to countless very good career people who left or were forced out by this administration. We practically need to rebuild the entire state department, and the DOJ.
They would have been first in line to buy the story Trump was trying to fabricate with Ukraine. I mean, apparently they still want to believe it.
At the very least he'd undo all the stuff Trump undid from the Obama years and rejoin the paris climate agreement. And if Congress passed some watered down version of the GND I doubt he'd veto it
Pragmatism isn't sexy, but it keeps my black ass alive and fed.
Look, if leftists run a candidate who can win, I am on board. Bernie is not that candidate.
Look, if leftists run a candidate who can win, I am on board. Bernie is not that candidate.
...I mean, it's clearly not just for "centrists," it's our catch-all US politics thread.
Look, if we get another candidate that can beat Trump and doesn't have the baggage that Biden has I'm all for it. It won't be Bernie, though. He'd have a hard time beating Trump even now.
Trump want's to remove healthcare from poor people and dismantle Obamacare....while Biden wants to improve healthcare for the poor, boost Obamacare, and bring in a public option.
But since Biden isn't for M4A I mean can we really say Biden is any better than Trump?
But since Biden isn't for M4A I mean can we really say Biden is any better than Trump?
Millionayuhs and billionayuhs. I'm reading your posts in his voice.
You're fooling yourself if you think a Biden admin is only good for harm mitigation, but even if that were true, there are plenty of folks for whom that would be a material improvement or even the difference between life and death.
That's all I'll say on the subject bc I don't think you're really here for good faith discussion.
This thread is not for whiners who don't get the answer they want to hear and thus keep asking the same question, I guess? IDK. I think it's for everyone, but it's probably not for people who irrationally want something that they clearly aren't going to get, either from this thread or from the voters at large.
Then you should vary your question. Or at least offer reasoning why they are less shit now than when you asked 20 days ago.
Preach.
I'd love for the opportunity to vote for a candidate like Bernie or Warren again, but that isn't happening.
All I have to say is: my vote for Biden is a vote for flipping the Senate blue; getting sensible judges in the SCOTUS and lower courts; flipping more districts in Congress; a strong consideration in DC or Puerto Rico statehood; and a stronger voice for progressive legislation when looking at the big picture.
Can't accomplish that with the orange cunt having a second term.
Can't accomplish that with the orange cunt having a second term.
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