Those independent numbers are not good for republicans.
Also, check out the Fox News effect in the republican belief in public health officials.
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Those independent numbers are not good for republicans.
Also, check out the Fox News effect in the republican belief in public health officials.
This really fucking sucks. Just totally inadequate to the scale of the problem.
Most importantly, I think this new revision excludes me from getting two weeks' sick time! Fuck that!
I don't normally advocate political grandstanding, but if Trump tries to throw this at Dems they need to tell him to fuck off. Many Republicans themselves now say direct cash is a better idea than a payroll tax cut, and money specifically to the airline industry is just bad optics when so many other industries are suffering. Doubly so if he still wants to bail out casinos and cruise ships at all in his proposal, fuck that noise. We need direct cash/ubi/yangbucks and strengthening the paid sick leave provisions that were weakened in the previous bill. House Dems hold all of the leverage here.
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John Roberts @johnrobertsFox
.@FoxNews has learned that @realDonaldTrump will ask Congress for more than $800 billion in economic stimulus: $500 bil in payroll tax cut, $250 bil in Small Business Association loans, $58 billion for the airlines, and a smattering of other items.
9:09 AM - Mar 17, 2020
.@FoxNews has learned that @realDonaldTrump will ask Congress for more than $800 billion in economic stimulus: $500 bil in payroll tax cut, $250 bil in Small Business Association loans, $58 billion for the airlines, and a smattering of other items.
9:09 AM - Mar 17, 2020
Lmao. Trump is such an idiot. What an unbelievably stupid idea. He might literally cause a civil war. Does he really think people are gonna just sit there and take it when they dont have a job or any way to feed their families? And he wants to do something that hurts people's social security?
NO... and if yes.. I will give you a Payroll Tax cut for the next 6 months in exchange of gutting the Tax bill you passed a few years ago.
This fucking guy. Can't stay on message for five minutes. Always back to attacking even in the midst of a crisis.
This is one time I wish he would lean into his "sense" of one-upmanship and give everyone a million dollars like Bloomberg could have done.
I told you guys he's just doing Puerto Rico again but with the whole country. He's going to fight with governors while pretending he's doing an amazing job as people die.
He can only be forced to act a certain way before he reverts back to his base nature.
Payroll tax cut is going to be super effective when people are laid off and won't have jobs 🙄🙄
Tom Cotton said he wants the checks over the payroll tax cut yesterday, so who knows.
Yeah payroll tax makes no sense whatsoever when people are going to be out of work for 4-8 weeks.
Also the Dow is slowly sinking down from the opening.
EDIT: Also going by Trump's tweets, I'm guessing yesterday he got shook for a couple of hours but his fruit-fly sized brain has already forgotten the briefings he got that scared the shit out of him and he's now back to settling scores.
Also the Dow is slowly sinking down from the opening.
EDIT: Also going by Trump's tweets, I'm guessing yesterday he got shook for a couple of hours but his fruit-fly sized brain has already forgotten the briefings he got that scared the shit out of him and he's now back to settling scores.
I'm getting shades of 2008 with the way the Republican party seems to be losing cohesion with the immediate response. The lunatics in the asylum are holding things up while the kindler, gentler ones are breaking messaging.
Trump being serious for three seconds means we are in Deep Shit and he is aware that he is losing authority -- the thing is, this is inimical behavior to the base that got him elected, and he naturally can't keep from being an impulsive, belligerent asshole for an extended period of time.
Trump being serious for three seconds means we are in Deep Shit and he is aware that he is losing authority -- the thing is, this is inimical behavior to the base that got him elected, and he naturally can't keep from being an impulsive, belligerent asshole for an extended period of time.
You're not saying it right, that's why you're not getting it, it's a payroll TAX CUT
Do you think he has any knowledge of who he is or what he did whatsoever?
Morning Joe is rallying behind Trump after the press conference yesterday.
That show is terrible. It's an echo chamber for intellectually dishonest arguments with Joe Scarbs leading the charge.
I still think the base 1000 is a bad idea. Give it to people who really need it. I'm working from home and getting full pay. My wife works in a clinic and is getting full pay. I'd rather the money go to people who can't open their doors and worrying about failing businesses.
What am I going to spend1,000 on right now? Amazon? Groceries? They aren't hurting
Morning Joe can fuck off with the "he's acting so presidential" takes. If Democrats lose it's because the media gave him a break like a parent giving a five year old props for saying 'thank you'.
Honestly, there's no real downside to just giving people money. You might not spend it right now, but after things chill out?
Rent, mortgage, utilities. I doubt we're getting an Italian-style moratorium any time soon.
I would like to put down a deposit on a PS5 and XSX so that could work for me.
Also even if people just use it to cover rent and bills and stuff... so what's the problem? Then it's just a preventative measure against millions of people defaulting on their debt or getting evicted, which would be even more devastating.
Exactly. Just give people the money, there's no real downside to it.
Normally I'm right there with you. However, this is one of those things where ease of distribution is important. Don't waste time means checking it, just give it to everyone. Plus, since it's a one time thing, there's no reason to cause people to get pissed they didn't get a check when Joe Blow down the road did. Just cut everyone $1000 or whatever and be done with it. If you take that $1000 and put it into a local business struggling to keep the doors open, it's a win win for everyone involved.
It's a bit blunt to just do it for everyone but probably the most efficient. It's not just about giving it to people who need it, but getting money flowing in the economy. You need transactions and spending for an economy to function.
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