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Heromanz

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Well there's two things about Nelson Mandela story. So either Joe Biden it's the greatest liar in American history or truly believe that he was arrested trying to see Nelson Mandela. So like
 

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Well there's two things about Nelson Mandela story. So either Joe Biden it's the greatest liar in American history or truly believe that he was arrested trying to see Nelson Mandela. So like

I'm still confused what my post about speech disabilities motivated you to make a comment starting with "the great stutter" and essentially laughing at the idea that people deal with speech issues?

Why would you use my post to launch off of a completely separate topic and basically ignore and shit all over it?
 

Dahbomb

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Well there's two things about Nelson Mandela story. So either Joe Biden it's the greatest liar in American history or truly believe that he was arrested trying to see Nelson Mandela. So like
He is not claiming that anymore, saying he was mistaken which is basically lying. I don't know about greatest liar in American history considering Trump exists and makes lies like this on a daily basis (record 15K lies in his time as president, Biden doesn't even come close to this). Trump's lies on Coronavirus are actively dangerous for the American population which is far more harmful than falsely bragging about your relationship with Mandela.

I mean this is a mild example of the dangerous type of lies Trump has made:

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loquaciousJenny

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Biden lying about being arrested with Mandela = Bad and he should be called out for lying about it.

Assuming Biden has dementia because he may replace words/names to cover up a speech impediment = Extremely bad and should be called out for what it is, concern trolling.


These two are not at all related unless you actually think Biden has such insane level of dementia that he actually truly believes he was arrested with Mandela. Which is pure crazy talk and should not be entertained.
Concern trolling isn't nearly as bad as this. This is ableism full stop
 

Heromanz

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I'm still confused what my post about speech disabilities motivated you to make a comment starting with "the great stutter" and essentially laughing at the idea that people deal with speech issues?

Why would you use my post to launch off of a completely separate topic and basically ignore you shit all over it?
Laughing? Well here's a about secret me. I have to have a speech impediment I have been dealing with it for my whole life. I know the pain in the struggle of having. As I was made fun of in grade school and throughout my life. When I listen to joe Biden I do hear the stutter sometimes but however other times he's not stuttering , he saying some old man shit.
 

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Laughing? Well here's a about secret me. I have to have a speech impediment I have been dealing with it for my whole life. I know the pain in the struggle of having. As I was made fun of in grade school and throughout my life. When I listen to joe Biden I do hear the stutter sometimes but however other times he's not stuttering , he saying some old man shit.

That doesn't really explain why you decided to use my post as your jumping off point or saying shit like "the great stutter". It seems beyond mean spirited to do such a thing, especially with something completely unrelated. For someone who knows how shitty it is to deal with, I find it staggering you found it appropriate to do what you just did. That's not even talking about the other poster who shared an almost exact copy of a post right after you who shared such a similar sentiment.

People like to talk about erasure a lot, I'm struggling to find the logic behind using my post and replying with this

What kind of stutter makes you invent being arrested in South Africa, touch women inappropriately and tell a Hispanic citizen who is concerned about deportations to go vote for Trump?

I'm not even mad, I'm just disgusted to be perfectly honest.
 

Yoma

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there is Biden lying and making an ass out of himself for the Mandela comment. No one is denying that.

However, his speech impediment should not be conflated with dementia and they are sadly influential folks like David Sirota and Kyle Kulinski, that quite frankly, should be held accountable for using these offensive attacks.
 

Heromanz

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That doesn't really explain why you decided to use my post as your jumping off point or saying shit like "the great stutter". It seems beyond mean spirited to do such a thing, especially with something completely unrelated. For someone who knows how shitty it is to deal with, I find it staggering you found it appropriate to do what you just did. That's not even talking about the other poster who shared an almost exact copy of a post right after you who shared such a similar sentiment.
Because not everything Joe Biden says is a stutter and it's clearly him saying some dumb ass like Nelson Mandela thing. I'm not going to use his speech impediment as an excuse for saying some dumbass shit.
 
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That's not even talking about the other poster who shared an almost exact copy of a post right after you who shared such a similar sentiment.

Second time you've brought this up, if you don't want us in here then at least have the courage to explain why and ask us to leave.

But as far as I can see, this is a thread for discussing US politics and that covers Biden
 

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www.buzzfeednews.com

I Spoke Out Against "American Dirt." Then Oprah Asked Me To Talk About It.

After I wrote a piece criticizing <i>American Dirt</i>, Oprah invited me to appear on <i>Oprah's Book Club</i> for a candid conversation with her and author Jeanine Cummins.

Sidebar but there was a conversation that occurred live not that long ago wrt American Dirt & Oprah herself addressing the issues people had with Cummins' representation. It was... a mixed bag for me, for those that haven't gotten to watch it, I'd recommend it. Honestly it felt more like someone trying to pump the brakes on the controversy more than an actual face first dive into the issue. The article does a good job of overview but all the same the situation is so fucking weird regarding this book. If this was 5 years ago, it'd absolutely be treated as Oscar bait cultural film framed exclusively for the perspective of a white centric audience.
 

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Because not everything Joe Biden says is a stutter and it's clearly him saying some dumb ass like Nelson Mandela thing. I'm not going to use his speech impediment as an excuse for saying some dumbass shit.

You know damn well that talking about Biden's stutter doesn't equate everything that comes out of his mouth to be somehow "protected". Nothing about any post on this subject talked about what you posted or was some type of catch all deflection. This is such a ridiculous attempt to justify your post, you came barging in using my post because you wanted to have some type of argument or snipe, and you just ended up showing how gross some of you guys are willing to go in order to try and score browny points.

I'm not going to engage with you any longer, you've showed just how low you're willing to go after it was obvious what I was talking about. If other people want to deal with your gross behavior that's their choice.
 

Heromanz

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He is not claiming that anymore, saying he was mistaken which is basically lying. I don't know about greatest liar in American history considering Trump exists and makes lies like this on a daily basis (record 15K lies in his time as president, Biden doesn't even come close to this). Trump's lies on Coronavirus are actively dangerous for the American population which is far more harmful than falsely bragging about your relationship with Mandela.

I mean this is a mild example of the dangerous type of lies Trump has made:

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Well considering that white people abused and /or made up relationships with civil rights leaders or movements that they have nothing to do with while using it to take advantage of African American communities as well as other minority . I think it's a major news when a white man who had nothing to do with the freedom movement of South Africa saying that he has something to do with the freedom movement of South Africa.
So as a black man in America I must call out the greatest American l lie,b saying that you were or black people when you were never for them to begin with.
 
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Well considering that white people abused and /or made up relationships with civil rights leaders or movements that they have nothing to do with while using it to take advantage of African American communities as well as other minority . I think it's a major news when a white man who had nothing to do with the freedom movement of South Africa saying that he has something to do with the freedom movement of South Africa.
So as a black man in America I must call out the greatest American l lie,b saying that you were or black people when you were never for them to begin with.


It's even more disgusting given how he spent his time as vice president stabbing his president in the back in order to protect an apartheid state.
 

TheHunter

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Second time you've brought this up, if you don't want us in here then at least have the courage to explain why and ask us to leave.

But as far as I can see, this is a thread for discussing US politics and that covers Biden
Because every time you post it's to start a fight.

If you'd just post without coming off as snide or antagonistic we could have a discussion on the merits of Biden's mental faculties or his position as a candidate. We are ok with civil discussion about anything US politics related. Instead, your post downplayed his stutter. Biden has legitimate issues as a candidate; his stutter is not one. Neither is him having "dementia".
 

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So I guess Briahna Joy Gray is liking twitter stuff and people talking about "Biden has dementia", talking about showing the doctored video that Kyle posted.

This is the tweet she liked



cool cool cool
 

Heromanz

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You know damn well that talking about Biden's stutter doesn't equate everything that comes out of his mouth to be somehow "protected". Nothing about any post on this subject talked about what you posted or was some type of catch all deflection. This is such a ridiculous attempt to justify your post, you came barging in using my post because you wanted to have some type of argument or snipe, and you just ended up showing how gross some of you guys are willing to go in order to try and score browny points.



I'm not going to engage with you any longer, you've showed just how low you're willing to go after it was obvious what I was talking about. If other people want to deal with your gross behavior that's their choice.
Low? No I'm keeping it real. I will always call out Joe Biden a man who has doomed millions of African-Americans with the most racist piece of legislation in modern-day of American history. That's fucked over my own family, my friends family, people I don't even know. When I see people not getting angry about this man becoming future nominee and just become a content with it it gets my blood boiling. So excuse me for not wanting to step in line for a for Joe and you use excuses for him
 
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Because every time you post it's to start a fight.

If you'd just post without coming off as snide or antagonistic we could have a discussion on the merits of Biden's mental faculties or his position as a candidate. We are ok with civil discussion about anything US politics related. Instead, your post downplayed his stutter. Biden has legitimate issues as a candidate; his stutter is not one. Neither is him having "dementia".

They are doing it because that is the fucking campaign Bernie's camp running now on - just look at the shit Briahna Joy Gray is retweeting. Because they can't bring themselves to speak anything good about Biden, because they got fucking shell shacked on Super Tuesday. I really wanted to see Bernie win the nomination initially because it would have put to bed the question whether a socialist can get elected in US or not, but the shit they have done since losing SC so bigly is just bad.

Compare to what Biden tweeted after the Bernie AZ rally

 
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Low? No I'm keeping it real. I will always call out Joe Biden a man who has doomed millions of African-Americans with the most racist piece of legislation in modern-day of American history. That's fucked over my own family, my friends family, people I don't even know. When I see people not getting angry about this man becoming future nominee and just become a content with it it gets my blood boiling. So excuse me for not wanting to step in line for a for Joe and you use excuses for him

And Bernie Sanders voted for it but that never matters I guess.
 

Hours Left

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All this garbage that comes from Bernie campaign surrogates, and the candidate himself, is totally inexcusable. These aren't "slip ups" or "lapses in judgement", they're 100% intentional, and it tarnishes any progressive policies they push for.
 

Vector

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Biden lying about being arrested with Mandela = Bad and he should be called out for lying about it.

Assuming Biden has dementia because he may replace words/names to cover up a speech impediment = Extremely bad and should be called out for what it is, concern trolling.


These two are not at all related unless you actually think Biden has such insane level of dementia that he actually truly believes he was arrested with Mandela. Which is pure crazy talk and should not be entertained.
But why is he lying about the most stupid shit imaginable? He was under no pressure to make up the Mandela shit, yet he did anyway and said something EASILY disprovable for no apparent reason.
 

Yoma

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If Biden wanted to claim some big social cred, there is a video where he very much publically slammed the Reagan administration for defending apartheid. I have no idea why he said that he was arrested for trying to meet Mandela but my only guess is that he largely exaggerated the claims to make him look himself good but was caught lying like a dumbo.

I think he made a big dumb unforced error.
 
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Because every time you post it's to start a fight.

If you'd just post without coming off as snide or antagonistic we could have a discussion on the merits of Biden's mental faculties. We are ok with civil discussion about anything. Instead, your post downplayed his stutter. Biden has legitimate issues as a candidate; his stutter is not one. Neither is him having "dementia".

Thank you for having the decency to tell me I'm not welcome here.

Low? No I'm keeping it real. I will always call out Joe Biden a man who has doomed millions of African-Americans with the most racist piece of legislation in modern-day of American history. That's fucked over my own family, my friends family, people I don't even know. When I see people not getting angry about this man becoming future nominee and just become a content with it it gets my blood boiling. So excuse me for not wanting to step in line for a for Joe and you use excuses for him

Damn right. ✊🏽

Because they can't bring themselves to speak anything good about Biden, because they got fucking shell shacked on Super Tuesday

Could you tell me about these good things that will get me enthused about Biden because there isn't much that I can see beyond "He's not Bernie"

And Bernie Sanders voted for it but that never matters I guess.

I'm sure you know he voted for it reluctantly because it was attached to the Violence against Women Act, and he even denounced the main part of crime bill because of the way that 'tough on crime' bullshit is purely punitive, bloodthirsty, ineffective and does nothing to address the root cause of crime.




Meanwhile Biden wrote the bill and not only that let's look at the contrast in bernie's language at the time and that of Biden:






But yes tell me how that vote for one bill makes Bernie as racist as Biden.


All this garbage that comes from Bernie campaign surrogates, and the candidate himself, is totally inexcusable. These aren't "slip ups" or "lapses in judgement", they're 100% intentional, and it tarnishes any progressive policies they push for.

No.

It would only tarnish the people themselves.

Saying it tarnishes the policies for which they are fighting is the height of privilege and not far removed from going "I'll only care about poor people if you're nicer to me on twitter" which is more gross than a dozen snake emojis in a tweet
 

KtotheRoc

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A deadly virus is tearing its way across the US which lacks adequate testing, and Trump spent the weekend playing golf and dining with a dictator.

But let's focus on Biden vs. Sanders.
 

TheHunter

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You're more than welcome to stay.

If you're gonna be hostile and look for fights I mean...we're not gonna give you a hug.
 

Pixieking

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If Biden wanted to claim some big social cred, there is a video where he very much publically slammed the Reagan administration for defending apartheid. I have no idea why he said that he was arrested for trying to meet Mandela but my only guess is that he largely exaggerated the claims to make him look himself good but was caught lying like a dumbo.

I think he made a big dumb unforced error.

Actually reminds me of Hillary's sniper fire comment. Like, you've got to think in both situations they're just "Why the fuck did I say that? OMFG!" (Or whatever terminology older people use when shocked by their own stupidity.)
 

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No.

It would only tarnish the people themselves.

Saying it tarnishes the policies for which they are fighting is the height of privilege and not far removed from going "I'll only care about poor people if you're nicer to me on twitter" which is more gross than a dozen snake emojis in a tweet
Tarnishes their messaging, not the basis. No one is going to listen to a group of people who make every effort to be as decisive and inhospitable as possible, no matter what they're saying.

Literally the first rule on how to be an effective leader.
 

adam387

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First you say they're your second cousin then you say they're the only cousin you have. Make up your mind adam!
This is the part where I admit...I don't know how cousins work. My aunt and uncle had no kids. This is my mom's cousin's daughter. So that's...2nd cousin right?
My dad's side was so much easier. He was an only child of two only children. JUST MAKE IT EASY FOR ME.
Could you tell me about these good things that will get me enthused about Biden because there isn't much that I can see beyond "He's not Bernie"
Well, the good news is, since you can't vote for Biden or Bernie, enthusiasm is irrelevant. :)
 

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Biden would likely do better in the general election. You may point to polls with Bernie having a larger advantage, assuming any still say that, but if he can't even win over the democratic party, he probably isn't winning over the electorate as a whole.

A hard to swallow pill I refuse to put into my mouth.
A deadly virus is tearing its way across the US which lacks adequate testing, and Trump spent the weekend playing golf and dining with a dictator.

But let's focus on Biden vs. Sanders.
I, too, am incapable of focusing on several things simultaneously. I had to stop typing this response to you, intermittently, because I kept forgetting that I was supposed to breathe and started feeling light headed.
 

KtotheRoc

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I, too, am incapable of focusing on several things simultaneously. I had to stop typing this response to you, intermittently, because I kept forgetting that I was supposed to breathe and started feeling light headed.

Every moment Democrats or their supporters give in to this Sanders vs. Biden pissing contest is another moment they are taking their eyes off the prize.
 

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Every moment Democrats or their supporters give in to this Sanders vs. Biden pissing contest is another moment they are taking their eyes off the prize.
Give it time, I say! Most will come around by the time Bernie drops out. They are working through internal conflict, i.e: "I should vote for guy. But I don't like guy! Do I like other guy? No I like other guy even less!"

I am still coming to terms with having to support Biden. I feel nauseous when I awake from my slumber and, by night, my heart weeps. "Say it isn't so," it calls out to no one in particular. But in response to its cries, it hears naught. For life, itself, has shut its ears and averted its eyes from my suffering.

Still, as the days come and pass, so do these wounds heal. And, before long, my heart will sound to the rhythm of Biden's incomprehensible speeches.
 

Vector

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So I guess Briahna Joy Gray is liking twitter stuff and people talking about "Biden has dementia", talking about showing the doctored video that Kyle posted.

This is the tweet she liked



cool cool cool

Kyle is a Tootsie stanning dirtbag leftie sycophant who didn't shy away from making dishonest attacks in the past; he completes the dirtbag left trifecta along with Greenwald and Tracey. The Left needs to stop taking advice from them.
 

Chaos Legion

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Biden lying about being arrested with Mandela = Bad and he should be called out for lying about it.

Assuming Biden has dementia because he may replace words/names to cover up a speech impediment = Extremely bad and should be called out for what it is, concern trolling.


These two are not at all related unless you actually think Biden has such insane level of dementia that he actually truly believes he was arrested with Mandela. Which is pure crazy talk and should not be entertained.
I don't know how the fuck people don't see this. Call him out on the Mandela arrest story!
 

Ac30

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Trump's approval tracker on 538 is clearly tending negative again for him. Admin's absolutely awful response is fucking him up
 
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