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Sheepinator

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Jul 25, 2018
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Last night I started feeling a pain in my like lower abdomen. Like right below my belly button. I thought it was just gas or something but it hasn't gone away. It kinda hurts when I cough. Am I dying? I don't want to go to the hospital.

I don't think it's a kidney stone or a UTI (lol! I've never had one of those). Someone diagnose me.
Hernia maybe? Which afaik might go away temporarily, but if the pain doesn't go away soon it could need surgery. Do not quote me on any of this. Seek proper advice, etc.
 

Aaron

I’m seeing double here!
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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't see anything wrong with Biden himself trying to remain above it all in the early days of the crisis, especially when his SuperPAC is running ads like this:



There's over seven months left in the campaign, and Trump is the one who'll be held accountable for this. What Trump does in March will be way more relevant than what Biden does in March.
 

Steel

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Oct 25, 2017
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Last night I started feeling a pain in my like lower abdomen. Like right below my belly button. I thought it was just gas or something but it hasn't gone away. It kinda hurts when I cough. Am I dying? I don't want to go to the hospital.

I don't think it's a kidney stone or a UTI (lol! I've never had one of those). Someone diagnose me.
I'd talk to a doctor about that. Maybe just a call. I had weird lower abdomen pain that wouldn't go away before that I didn't think was much that turned out to be appendicitis. I doubt you have it, but who knows what the problem is or how serious it is.
 

GoldenEye 007

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It's grotesque, but politically the best time to attack Trump on his handling of the virus is after the bodies start piling up.
I'd go with this, tbh. We're still in the middle of the crisis. The chances of threading the needle of criticism of the president while not coming off as a whiner with no solutions just muddling things is slim to none. It makes little sense to go on an all out assault at this point. People are looking for opportunities to rally behind the "leader."

And as it stands now when you compare to other crises, Trump is doing a piss poor job all on his own looking at approvals, etc.
 

AnotherNils

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twitter.com

Holly Otterbein on Twitter

““ I don’t think the public wants to hear criticism of Trump right now,” said an informal adviser to Biden. https://t.co/dgWRcME7Pm”

Confirms that this was clearly internal strategy.





I want to fucking scream...

I don't think this is as dumb as it sounds. Trump's numbers are showing the "rally around the flag" effect. Attacking him constantly now will read worse than picking spots until the trend reverses.

By the way, it not even April. We got 6 months to go. Attacks now don't matter like they will later. Most people aren't psychos like us thinking about the election. They just want to weather this storm.
 

PMS341

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I don't think this is as dumb as it sounds. Trump's numbers are showing the "rally around the flag" effect. Attacking him constantly now will read worse tha picking spots until the trend reverses.

Since when do Trump supporters not constantly rally around the flag?
 

RDreamer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I dunno why people are falling for what an informal advisor is saying when Biden literally is criticizing Trump damn near every day.
 

Ac30

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Biden would totally be the candidate that pardons Trump. My God.
Come on.
Biden has a thin line," the outside adviser to Biden said. "As much as I dislike Trump and think what a bad job he's doing, there's a danger now that attacking him can backfire on you if you get too far out there. I don't think the public wants to hear criticism of Trump right now."
The above is a completely valid fear and Biden's already said he wouldn't pardon Trump.
Joe Biden on Monday said that he would not pardon Trump if he is elected president in 2020. "It wouldn't unite the country," the former vice president said during an interview with Radio Iowa. "... This guy does all these things that put us in jeopardy and he gets off? I think this is of a different nature."

www.thedailybeast.com

Biden Says He Won’t Pardon Trump if Elected

“It wouldn’t unite the country,” Biden said during an interview with Iowa Radio.
 

Phife Dawg

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Golf, in all honesty *can* easily be played while maintaining social distancing. Not saying that's what everyone is doing, but if you aren't going in the club house, its extremely easy to stay at least six feet away from anyone else while playing golf.
Isn't going to the club house one of the main things - making (business) contacts etc. Not a golfer myself though.
 

PMS341

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Biden is probably the friendliest to Republicans of any recent Presidential Candidate, outside of maybe Klobuchar. He cares for decorum that no longer exists and believes in an old system that also no longer exists. Him pardoning Trump wouldn't be surprising at all.
 

Greg NYC3

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I dunno why people are falling for what an informal advisor is saying when Biden literally is criticizing Trump damn near every day.
Yeah, I honestly not keen on Biden's campaign thus far but I do think that he's been playing things correctly during this crisis. He's staying in the news, not appearing as if he's trying to get over-involved or exploiting the crisis for points and hitting Trump when the obvious moments to do so present themselves.

Pretty much the opposite of McCain's bizarre response to the 2008 financial crisis in every way.
 

daedalius

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Oct 27, 2017
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I don't think this is as dumb as it sounds. Trump's numbers are showing the "rally around the flag" effect. Attacking him constantly now will read worse than picking spots until the trend reverses.

By the way, it not even April. We got 6 months to go. Attacks now don't matter like they will later. Most people aren't psychos like us thinking about the election. They just want to weather this storm.
Biden literally attacking him on twitter daily, what else is he supposed to do?

EVERYONE needs to be hammering him on this medical supplies shit, he can't just say "oh NYC doesn't need that many ventilators" WHAT THE FUCK
 

Ac30

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Biden is probably the friendliest to Republicans of any recent Presidential Candidate, outside of maybe Klobuchar. He cares for decorum that no longer exists and believes in an old system that also no longer exists. Him pardoning Trump wouldn't be surprising at all.
He's on record saying he doesn't agree with a pardon. Worrying about it is pretty pointless, especially since Trump hasn't actually been formally charged with anything. Biden wouldn't pardon him. Why would he, seriously? Ford pardoning Nixon is a poor parallel, they were from the same party. Biden gains nothing.
 

aspiegamer

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Oct 27, 2017
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ZzzzzzZzzzZzz...
If possible, kev, you might want to go to an urgent care facility and not an ER because the later would be a complete and total mess right now. They'd probably want to do an ultrasound, which is something you shouldn't have to go to a hospital for. That, or actually throw money at the issue by trying to get a house call? Like, you might as well, if you can.

You know, if you want to think about it, literally anyone who's used the word "Biden" in a post here is an informal advisor, lol.

wtf is this timeline?
 

Blader

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Oct 27, 2017
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Biden is probably the friendliest to Republicans of any recent Presidential Candidate, outside of maybe Klobuchar. He cares for decorum that no longer exists and believes in an old system that also no longer exists. Him pardoning Trump wouldn't be surprising at all.
A Democratic president pardoning a former Republican president for crimes would be completely surprising and unprecedented. Particularly in this case, given Trump's launching of a public and private smear campaign against Biden's son.

I think the only time a president has even pardoned another president was Ford and Nixon, which was one Republican protecting another, as they tend to do. Biden trying to being friendly with Republicans doesn't mean he is going to be the first president pardon one of the opposing party, especially given how much he personally loathes Trump. Biden cares for decorum in an old system, but doesn't consider Trump to be a part of that decorum.
 

AkimboChainz

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Yeah the Biden campaign and his pacs have released ads using Trumps own words against him and he put out 4 tweets calling out Trump in last 24hrs. Biden is just trying to find a balance of calling out Trump while not seeming to be playing politics
 

sphagnum

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Oct 25, 2017
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since when did "liberals" become the new word for "moderates"
I feel like this has been the trend this week by the busters posting

is it a chapo thing

Since the mid-19th century. America is just catching up to it because our political terminology developed weirdly compared to the rest of the world, and only recently have socialists been successful at injecting this into the public consciousness. It's not "a Chapo thing" - socialists, anarchists, communists etc. have been castigating liberals for centuries, because our ideologies are not the same.

There is definitely a propensity for some liberals (social democrats) to not understand that they are also liberals and use the terms liberal/neoliberal as a blind insults against perceived centrists. They're bandwagoning and think they're radical, but they're not. But from the left stance, they are all liberals.
 

Arm Van Dam

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As usual with "this" General Motors, things just never seem to work out. They said they were going to give us 40,000 much needed Ventilators, "very quickly". Now they are saying it will only be 6000, in late April, and they want top dollar. Always a mess with Mary B. Invoke "P".
WTF is he even saying? I bet this was about the NYT report from last night about the GM deal being off
 

Blader

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America is just catching up to it because our political terminology developed weirdly compared to the rest of the world, and only recently have socialists been successful at injecting this into the public consciousness. It's not "a Chapo thing" - socialists, anarchists, communists etc. have been castigating liberals for centuries, because our ideologies are not the same.

This distinction does not exist in the public consciousness at all. The labels that online socialists use to describe people to their right does not matter one iota to most people. Most people, including self-identified liberals, would consider "liberal" as pretty left leaning.
 
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I dunno why people are falling for what an informal advisor is saying when Biden literally is criticizing Trump damn near every day.

Yup, just shows how many people aren't paying attention and want to validate their bias. That headline is straight click bait. Not to mention Biden has criticized Trump and there's been plenty of ads doing so.
 

Kemal86

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think this is as dumb as it sounds. Trump's numbers are showing the "rally around the flag" effect. Attacking him constantly now will read worse than picking spots until the trend reverses.

By the way, it not even April. We got 6 months to go. Attacks now don't matter like they will later. Most people aren't psychos like us thinking about the election. They just want to weather this storm.


Yeah, anecdotes and all that, but my mother (late 60's) doesn't really like Trump but is also mostly disengaged from politics. We're in a stay at home state so she's just been sitting in her house watching TV all day. The one thing I hear from her is "I wish the reporters wouldn't be so mean to Trump. He's trying and his situation is terrible". Now, we know how nonsense that is. but we are very plugged in. I don't think it's out of bounds to say that a lot of people, perhaps those like my mother who have very little to lose in this election, just want to see positivity, that things are going to be ok.
 

AndyD

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WTF is he even saying? I bet this was about the NYT report from last night about the GM deal being off

It's also about that scorching interview yesterday where they made it clear that the ventilator numbers the White House are citing are "by the end of the year" and not anytime soon, so it's all bluster and not real help. And its become obvious that the federal government outbid states on critical equipment, so they drove up the price unnecessarily and are delaying distribution to where stuff is needed. Again trying to blame others for their own unpreparedness.
 
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Casa

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Oct 25, 2017
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He's probably mad that these companies are making him look like the fool he is becasue he over promised and they can't deliver. He wanted to go in front of the cameras and sound like he was doing something that wasn't actually feasible.
 
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