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US PoliEra 2020 |OT4| Disaster Voltron
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The midwest folksiness and horrible MN/WI/UP region humor allllllways gets people! Uh. Eventually.
For me the saddest part is that the most I ever wanted to vote for her was when she was a boss and didn't endorse anyone.
This is where I'm at as well. Someone like Klobuchar might not have great politics but you're better served with her than Biden getting smashed with this accusation right during the middle of the general election, when we are locked into him as the nominee.
What does this whataboutism add to the topic at hand and what's the similarity in degree between an alleged sexist remark and an alleged sexual assault?
Sanders really takes the Barry Goldwater role in that 30 years from now we'll be studying his influence on the changing course of the country.
That's the really sad part. It probably won't matter in the general, especially due to the guy he's facing.
Though if things do change in that regards, hey, that's what Superdelegates are for. I know I'd rather have Warren or even Pete over a rapist.
What? I was discouraging the same kind of behavior you're talking about.
Rapists are bad, but railroading black folks legally is something that we can get past, apparently.
Warren is basically the only major candidate who seemed like an actual good person, racial blind spots aside.
Pretty much everyone wants to get this passed now but 3 dumbfucks
What does this even mean? The DNC should "put forward" a candidate? Is this what you think the DNC does?
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But c'mon! She's folksy! Even when treating aides like crap or treating black people like crap.
I guess that, unless Biden withdraws, there aren't enough superdelegates to force a contested convention with the rule change.
Yeah she's a little on the strange opinion side but that shouldn't matter. if there's a story there major news orgs like WaPo and NYT will be lining up to investigate and report.
We'll see.
I'll vote for Biden in the general, and I might even like the policies that he enacts while in office, but I will never like him as a person. Fucking hell...
....believing victims literally means we investigate every allegation based on the belief it is true.
Reality of the situation.
Biden isn't dropping unless there are many more allegations to come. The DNC can't just pull him and nominate someone else. It mostly won't matter to voters.
It sucks but if you're a white man you're offered many privileges. Hillary gets more shit for her husbands misdeeds than he does.
Biden isn't dropping unless there are many more allegations to come. The DNC can't just pull him and nominate someone else. It mostly won't matter to voters.
It sucks but if you're a white man you're offered many privileges. Hillary gets more shit for her husbands misdeeds than he does.
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If you were serious about any of this you wouldn't have a Hilary avatar. She has a history of silencing victims of assault and supporting her rapist husband. You're literally downplaying/denying her history whilst clearly bullshitting about how you think all women should be believed because looking like you have morals is more important than having morals.
I'm in no way downplaying the trauma you went through but you don't care about other victims. You're parading around an avatar celebrating a slave using terf to own Bernie bros. That's what you actually care about.
No it's not. Nobody would have argued this with Christine Blasey Ford and nobody thinks Kavanagh was innocent after the hearing/investigation. Everybody here understands how difficulty allegations of sexual assault are to prove and what what "believe all women" means. It was already concerning enough that people who support Joe already like to pretend Anita Hill doesn't exist but this is on another level. He has a history of defending sexual predators and inappropriately touching women/children; it's not as this is some shocking revelation that came out of nowhere.
Stop politicising how you perceive sexual assault based on your party.
I mean
The reality of the situation is likely going to be that it's just her word against his. So if they do an investigation and that happens, all it's going to do is strengthen Biden. I'm not saying there shouldn't be an investigation but I'm not sure how this changes anyone's opinion in here, if that ends up being the case.
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I mean ignoring the 20+ women or whoever said Trump raped them and obviously the billion other awful things we will endure in him winning reelection, didnt you know, Biden is Satan? The convention is gonna get interesting if there is actual power to change candidates, but he is the certain one mathematically right now.
You can still investigate they said/they said situations. It's done all the time. Again, this shouldn't be about strengthening or weakening Biden. It should be about figuring out exactly what happened. If that means it hurts Biden? So be it. If that means it strengthens Biden? So be it. That's an irrelevant consideration. They can interview folks, find out if she divulged this to anyone contemporaneously, was there anyone else in Biden's office who was aware of this? Etc. This happens all the time when allegations are made. This is how it should work. At the end of it all, it might end up being a they said/they said thing, but both she and Biden are entitled to a full investigation.
You know, I try very hard to disagree with folks without being disagreeable. But this kind of shit gets leveled against me all the time, is in clear violation of the site's policies and nothing seems to happen about it.
Saying "I don't care" about other victims is disgusting. Saying I have no morals is disgusting.
And I don't bother owning "Bernie Bros" reality does that to them automatically.
I'm grossed out as well but if Biden is the nom what am I gonna do? Either way I'll have to vote what we have in office out. I can't not vote and continue with this shit. I wanted Warren from the start but the country was like "nah"
Holy shit, I thought it was embarrassing how people were defending Biden but trying to downplay it, question the victim's motives and drag someone that isn't even going to win the nom for it. The audio too from the interview is disturbing too but hey, vote blue no matter who right?
This post irritates me because I was going to stomach a Biden vote considering how dogshit Trump and the Repubs are but turns out there's a rapist on the dem side too. It's convenient too that its easy to downplay victims if they don't fall within your policies right?
This post irritates me because I was going to stomach a Biden vote considering how dogshit Trump and the Repubs are but turns out there's a rapist on the dem side too. It's convenient too that its easy to downplay victims if they don't fall within your policies right?
Sad but true. I can hear the people questioning the timing already. Biden running is a very good shield against being held accountable.
CNN had a blurb, citing aides that say Trump's starting speaking aloud to himself, wondering when things will get back to normal. Bro, this has still barely started. Keep Fauci on speed dial at all times or something.
Looking forward to today's shitshow briefing!
Looking forward to today's shitshow briefing!
look you either cancel TERFs or you don't
it's not complicated
also the damage control in this thread is shameful. There's a reason believing victims is important
it's not complicated
also the damage control in this thread is shameful. There's a reason believing victims is important
Tomorrow. Unemployment numbers come out tomorrow. PA was over half a million.
It's blatant now that some posters have issues/grievances with others and are just using this news to attack on another.
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