Is there any logic to anything but 3? I know someone mentioned an important Judge vote was on the ballot and this would drive votes, but I'm not sure as most everyone views this race as over.
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US PoliEra 2020 |OT4| Disaster Voltron
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Is there any logic to anything but 3? I know someone mentioned an important Judge vote was on the ballot and this would drive votes, but I'm not sure as most everyone views this race as over.
Quit the campaign and advise for Biden (hopefully he accepts...) Is the only reasonable outcome.
I have respect for Sanders doing things the way he wants to without any regard to what you're "supposed" to do. I'm the same way. But he wants to be President. You have to do some politicking. You can't be a body builder without working out.
How It All Came Apart for Bernie Sanders (Published 2020)
The Sanders campaign appeared on the brink of a commanding lead in the Democratic race. But a series of fateful decisions and internal divisions have left him all but vanquished.www.nytimes.com
I think the scale for what can actually be achieved for progressive reform has massively shifted leftward. If we can get all three branches (not a given) it's going to be easier to convince people how close anyone is to needing financial support, Healthcare, etc etc.
That's scary stuff, man. Hope you and your wife wind up safe and clean. I'm already telling family members to stay the hell away from buses and trains. They're giant metal death traps now as far as I'm concerned. The lack of testing is going to kill so many people...
Compete aggressively, compete passively, and don't compete at all are the same three options every campaign has lol
Why do you think this is happening? Why is it OK to price gouge on life saving treatments while have to "negotiate" with private health insurance because they can refuse to pay for it? And why penalize people who're unable to afford insurance while living in states that didn't expand medicaid? I didn't apply for the ACA because I looked at the cheapest plan and saw how much more expensive it is than going to the hospital uninsured.
The whole system is broken, and people are defending it while offering a public option while taking money from private insurance and pharmaceutical companies.
The whole system is broken, and people are defending it while offering a public option while taking money from private insurance and pharmaceutical companies.
God bernie would have been a terrible GE candidate. If he starts campaigning aggressively using the disaster opportunistically, I hope most of his supporters abandon him. There is no need to stay in this race. Any downballot race should be mail in only for the next few months. Thankfully, I do have some faith that he is a better person than would do that
Our Kakistocracy government makes getting slammed for this much easier than authoritarian Iran and China's fuckups. Hell, Xi's already leaning in on this disparity.
The Elder Statesman is loving his kingmaker role now.
I haven't had a lot to add to this thread or ResetERA generally lately.
I just wanted to say "welp, this sucks" and that I hope each of you are able to take a break from the news now and then and find an opportunity to be grateful for whatever is going well in your life. This news cycle seems to corrode the soul.
It's going to be a long year. We have to pace ourselves.
I just wanted to say "welp, this sucks" and that I hope each of you are able to take a break from the news now and then and find an opportunity to be grateful for whatever is going well in your life. This news cycle seems to corrode the soul.
It's going to be a long year. We have to pace ourselves.
I think there is a consistent theme here that he and his campaign did not want to communicate and backdeal with party leaders, which is a damn shame.
I'm with you. Ive taken a few breaks this year already. Watching Trump, Bill Barr, Mitch McConnell, and the rest of the corrupt Republican Party get away with/ignore Trumps incompetence is enough to make anyone go insane.
I'm kind of upset now that AOC actually went ahead with that endorsement. At that point his campaign was not doing well so she could have actually helped Warren. A Warren Biden finale would have been so much better than this
Warren would've gotten less votes than Bernie regardless and with the amount of online shit AOC got for liking a fucking SNL sketch with Warren I shudder to think what a certain set of online idiots would've sent her.
Pride goeth before a fall.
He filled his campaign with a bunch of people whose CV's can't even fill half a page, and the inexperience showed. And most deliciously of all, now the bros can't even claim that his staff failed him because of all these stories showing that the rot came from on high. "Their boy" failed himself.
I'm sure there's hesitancy to have a woman be a candidate after 2016, but I could see Warren getting more votes than Bernie. I think the party could've coalesced around her like they did with Biden as well.
Sorry, I got ticked off by some poster still pushing the "Biden's sundowning why are you all ignoring this??" Shit in the primary thread.
*blinking*
Indeed. And terrible analogy aside, it again shows one of the key problems with Sanders and his campaign: he views anyone and everyone, including potential allies who he could potentially court and get on his side if he were so interested, as enemies regardless. Like, obviously reaching for a Civil War analogy of all things is extra-bad on Weaver's part, but even if he reached for something with a bit more tact, the analogy still shows that once again he's casting figures like Pelosi and the Democratic Party as inherently being just as much an enemy to Sanders as anyone else (despite him running for the Democratic Party's nomination for Presidential Candidate), and that itself just says it all.
Literally anyone and everyone just starts off as enemies/adversaries to him from the word "go" and have to prove to him they're not, instead of, y'know, being a politician and all that, just... not doing that? And it maybe, just maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaybe being his job as a politician seeking even higher office to be the one making the pitch in the first place as to why they should be aboard Team Sanders as opposed to any other team, making the case himself and actually trying to form coalitions and all that.
Nope, instead, again he and his campaign demonstrate they view anyone and everyone as potential enemies from the word go instead of potential allies and they have to prove to HIM they're not adversaries, instead of the other way around. It's not that Sanders has to put in the work or anything like that, they have to prove their loyalty to him, or else, he doesn't have to do a thing.
He still just doesn't get it, at all. He's just way, waaaaaay too adversarial about this type of thing.
So the campaign really wanted the Democratic party to self-immolate via a civil war of "moderates", while avoiding the constituents they were counting on to make this happen? This is terrible on several levels, and a disservice to many of Sanders' supporters who were counting on him for systemic change.
Letthemfight.jpg only works when they don't have a bigger common goal. You think Mothra and Godzilla would keep fighting if King Ghidra shows up on the field?
Wooooooooowwwwwwwwww..... They really wasted their time endorsing him. Like, holy fuck, no outreach. Not us, me.
It's why he was my last resort before Biden and Butti, but damn his campaign was even more poorly run that I expected, and I wasn't expecting much.
Bernie was built to be the candidate for those not into electoral politics.
Which ended up, surprise surprise, not being helpful for electoral politics.
I hope the next group of politicians aren't a bunch of lionized mediocre men and ostracized amazing women.
Which ended up, surprise surprise, not being helpful for electoral politics.
I hope the next group of politicians aren't a bunch of lionized mediocre men and ostracized amazing women.
Bernie must be hellish to work with. I know Vermont is small, but how does someone like this have success at the highest levels of government? This article goes a long way to explaining Hillary's comments on Bernie. I understand better why she resents him so much- he's the antithesis of her. She spent a career honing her skills and building her resume while Bernie did nothing of the sort and still felt he should be President.
Yep.
Hillary dislike the guy for a simple fact: she'd be nowhere if she acted like him. She knows that, he doesn't. And never needed to.
Heh. Probably just to tout that he was winning younger black voters and assumed that older ones should just go ahead and support him.
I knew Sanders is an extremely stubborn dude, but he really makes it an artform. Then wonders why he can't win.
He clearly thought he could be like Trump and just barge in and get everyone to do what he wanted by sheer force.
His anti-establishment campaign helped him get that 30% of extremely loyal diehard voters, but it also turned off a lot of others, and left him no room to grow.
The Democratic party is much more diverse then the Republican party, and I think the results show this was a terrible strategy that wouldn't work like Trump's did.
Honestly, after Warren dropped I was going back and forth on whether to vote Biden or Bernie for the primary since I wasn't huge on either, but I ended up going for Biden because I didn't think Bernie could build enough of a coalition to win. Based on everything coming out I think I made the right decision. I just hope Biden incorporates more progressive policies into his platform for the general.
His anti-establishment campaign helped him get that 30% of extremely loyal diehard voters, but it also turned off a lot of others, and left him no room to grow.
The Democratic party is much more diverse then the Republican party, and I think the results show this was a terrible strategy that wouldn't work like Trump's did.
Honestly, after Warren dropped I was going back and forth on whether to vote Biden or Bernie for the primary since I wasn't huge on either, but I ended up going for Biden because I didn't think Bernie could build enough of a coalition to win. Based on everything coming out I think I made the right decision. I just hope Biden incorporates more progressive policies into his platform for the general.
The man understands basic human rights
but
The man doesn't understand basic politics.
he really should've just been a policy advisor for Warren
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